PG XL Power On Question

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I received a PG XL amplifier a little over two weeks ago.  Aside from the fact that it arrived from FLEX loaded with a developmental build of the PG XL firmware which didn't work.  A simple downgrade to the stable version fixed that.  However, I can't seem to find a way in the documentation and PG XL app to turn the amplifier on and off without going behind the radios and manually turning on/off the switch on the rear of the PG XL.  Is there a method that I am overlooking?

I have 4 transceivers and 4 amplifiers in the radio room at 4 operating positions.  For all 4 transceivers and 3 amplifiers I can turn them on/off from the front panel.  For those of us using racks or custom cabinets this is a pain.  Help me, I hope the rear switch isn't the only way to turn the PG XL on/off.

Thanks.

Reg
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For the time being I leave the switch on and just plug/unplug the cord from the wall outlet.  In my case it's a lesser pain.  In the near future I'll add an inline power switch at my operating position.  However, during lightning season I'll continue to unplug the amp when not in use.  Others may leave the amp on full time in standby - in that mode it draws very little power. 

Some more ideas using relays:

https://groups.io/g/FlexRadioSmartSDR/topic/pgxl_remote_operation/23755462?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,0,23755462

Howard
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Have thesame issue with a couple KPA-1500 amp Power supplies I think that present day style dictates that  power switches be placed in an area that is inconvenient. 8^) For me, Access to the switch involves laying on the floor and crawling under the counter. 

Just as Howard does, I just plug and unplug the power supply directly. 
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Nothing like having a $7000 amp that you have to use the line cord as the power switch :)
Its always the simple things that get missed.


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The KPA-1500 has a separate power supply which can be placed out of the way. Mine sits on a lower shelf. I never have to turn it off with the rear switch. Just shut the amp itself off. Only time I shut off the supply is when we have a power outage or t storms then I unplug it.
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I seriously doubt the design of a front power switch on the PG-XL was simply "missed."
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Reminiscent of the Max headroom show where TV sets weren't allowed (by law) to have an off switch. 

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I'm sure they put the Mains power switch on the back to give the amp a more clean, less cluttered look.
Unfortunately that makes a simple thing like turning off the mains power a bit more of a pain in the butt.

Because the PGXL is network/IP capable it needs some power for the network part of the amp to be on all the time for remote access. 

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Can't say it's a surprise, not to me at least. Having the ACOM 1000 and SPE Expert 1K-Fa, both with their main AC switch on the back of the amp. Nothing new with the PG XL having it in the same place. I don't like it either ...but seems to be the way the manufacturer places the switch today.
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I did as Howard did, I used a 110V relay coil 3 pole Relay and switch the Amp OFF and ON with my Web based Power Switch not because the Power switch is on the back BUT some times the AMP needs to have a power reboot if you have a firmware update, or if your network goes down and the AMP looses it's IP or the Amp application and Radio just stops talking to the Radio. 
I run my station remotely and for me this is the Ideal way of running my station all remote. 

73's
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Interesting.  I had assumed the STANDBY/OPERATE button on the front panel also powered up the PG-XL.  I'm guessing the PG-XL's rear mounted power switch was chosen as a cost savings measure?  Reaching around the rear of the amplifier or having to rig up a remote switch arrangement certainly doesn't sound convenient.  Does anyone know if this is the final power switch design?

I like the way Alpha did this on my 87A, two heavy duty switches on the front panel, one for on and the other for off.
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Below is Ranko/4O3A’s explanation of the rationale.

Howard

https://community.flexradio.com/flexradio/topics/power-genius-xl-remote-operation-questions-with-flex6700-ssdr?topic-reply-list%5Bsettings%5D%5Bfilter_by%5D=all

PG XL main power supply is OFF when in STBY mode. 24V AUX power supply remains ON and LAN/display is powered. STBY/OPERATE will be controllable from SmartSDR directly, and it's a way to switch PG XL ON/OFF.

I hope it helps.
73
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Ranko:

Thank you.  I didn't see this in the documentation.  When I go to Standby and the entire front panel is still "ON" I assumed the amplifier was "ON".

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Ranko:

Any chance of adding an optional screen saver to the front panel display.  There have been a lot of display panel issues in the industry in recent years.  Some of the early ICOM IC-7610 had defective displays that went bad with use.  The design wherein the rest of the amplifier is powered down while in Standby mode is interesting but I am bothered by the fact that the screen stays on.  It is a touch screen so a touch could turn it back on.

Thanks for considering my suggestion.

Reg
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DPST 30A relay with a 110v coil. Tripped by my 110v wifi switch.

The relay I used: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...
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