Greg - KØGDI
But without an accurate, up-to-date roadmap of feature sets, you cannot determine what will be included in the basic radio under version one, and what features will be added for version two.
So you can wait for the product to mature, or jump into the pool and wait to see what actually appears as the versions are released.
Life is wonderful !
Flex addressed this in reflector discussions prior to the community's launch.
At that time the stance was minor upgrades were included, major upgrades paid, no annual fees, and that a courtesy paid package (cost TBD) major upgrade would be available to bonafide multiple Flex-6x00 owners.
Like you Greg I will end up with a couple units - most likely I'll retain the 6300 for portable use by replacing it with a 6500 or another 6700 for the weekend shack, and I have a 6700 at home.
Since the fee is only for Major Upgrades I am personally not worrying about paying it, any different than if I had to send the units in to have benchwork done to install a physical update. The level and quality of the minor updates (which are far more than "minor" in my book) is a good indicator that I will be getting another fantastic value with a Major Upgrade Version even if assessed separate fees for each radio.
Like you I am very receptive of a "Frequent Flyer" sort of discount for a Major Upgrading of several radios at once, who wouldn't like a package deal? But is far from a purchase inhibitor if list price is list price is list price.
All best and 73
1x6700=8slices ~ 7000$
You could save a lot of money and buy a tower and a really
good beam (why not Tennadyne T-8+TH7DX) for your
The antenna is the most important part of your equipment!
(I'm also into photography a lot and find people tend to forget
that the camera is only a black box with a shutter.
It's the lens that makes your photos great!)
1) can be done via a server, turn radio on and it reports to server. Only works if WAN is available.
2) Embedded SW that remembers a registration code and S/N and user name. Most SW uses variation on this. Each radio would be charged license fee.
3) Register only in computer running SmartSDR, so that only one computer is allowed to run registered radio. Any number of radios could be used for one time fee since only one radio could be used at a time, but would allow flexibility for the op and a one time fee for upgrade.
4) Point of purchase were you pay for the upgrade and then it can be downloaded and it would be serialized to the owner. This would allow max usage with one time cost.
If anyone can think of other system, methods go ahead and add it in. So what ever Flex decides as a method of control for the major upgrade has probably been decided on. Because it would most likely involve SW within the radio/SmartSDR and at Flex to sell, register and control distribution. Not a trivial matter in order to secure their SW product as well as computer/radio and server information security.
Say's the guy who saved almost a year for the 6500, runs wire antennas with 100 Watts. I'll just never know what it's like to have all the gear.... But I LOVE what I've got...
Unfortunately I think that it is a problem that will never be resolved to everyone's satisfaction. If Flex (or Microsoft or any other software supplier) did things differently, for instance put a dongle on the radio that must be present for it to work with the software, then Flex could give the software away and sell the dongle.
Until people accept that it probably costs FRS more to design, write and produce the software than it does to design and manufacture the hardware, then this discussion will not go away.
Warranty Transfers may seem simple but unfortunately someone on my staff has to look up the existing warranty, confirm that it is still in good standing and then confirm that the new owner is actually a legitimate owner and is eligible to own the new warranty.
You would be quite amazed to find the number of stolen items returned for warranty or misrepresented by third party sellers as being eligible for warranty transfer or having had third party sellers collect and pocket warranty transfer fees..
$75 Warranty Transfer Fee likely does not cover its true costs to the company that is generous enough to offer warranty transfers.
Steve: your comment makes sense. I can see the potential extra work servicing the second Newbie purchaser.
Tim: This is my 3rd Flex radio and your service has been sevond to none. As Burt stated... I don't know how you guys supply the kind of service you do and still stay afloat. I'm not questioning the warranty service or the value. I just question charging a fee to transfer the warranty on a radio that is 3 months old and has literally under 10 hours on it. Will it affect my 6000 ownership ? Absolutely not. This is the most fun I have ever had in amateur radio ! So a final question. I'm currently on the road and won't be home for awhile... is there a time frame in which I must register the warranty ? I don't want to have any issues later.
RE: Icom Kenwood Yaesu those radios are hardware legacy radios. If you want better filters you have to spend $1000 to upgrade. Same with Elecraft those jokers charge $30 for a friggin handbook on their radios, or $20 for a friggin cable with a stereo 2.5 to 3.5mm plugs on it. You can go through 5 complete upgrade cycles for $1000. For the legacy radio by the time 5 upgrade cycles occur the thing is residing in the dump
Paying for a major update to the radio is not unreasonable, However I have a question, will the cost of a 6000 series radio with v2 cost 200 dollars more than a radio with v1, the reason I ask this is an early adopter may pay for 3 or 4 major releases (600 t0 800 dollars extra) whereas a late adopter may not have to pay for any
I will have a problem with the Fee if its charged BFEORE SSDR has Squelch, decent memory functions and a few other things that SHOULD already be there, there not upgrades, im still blown away no squelch ....... and the memory, I don't claim to be a programmer but I could put 10 memory buttons at the top of the windows in less then 2 hours even though ive not programmed in a few years, oh and the time display being locked into what someone person thinks is best is crazy .... options are to easy to add.
After we have the functions it should have started with and a update bakes the radio better in real good ways ill pay ..... Ive never liked so much and disliked so much a radio!
It runs 2 panadapters and 3 slices of SSDR on the 6500 or 2 panadapters and slices on the 6300 remote perfectly with less than 50% typical utilization, 0 dropped packets and max latency of 3 ms, but if you start adding all kinds of "features" pretty soon I'll be out of resources. I can add or subtract "features" (aka resources) at will according to my system and operating needs. I keep FRStack under the SSDR window with just one edge exposed so if I click that edge it's virtually no different than clicking SSDR. I'll pay the $200 just to keep the simple high performance un-junked-up interface we presently enjoy