New SmartSDR v1.4 LAN REMOTE Preview Video

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For those who want to see a preview of SmartSDR v1.4 and LAN Remote, check out the Youtube video we just posted.  73, Greg - K5GJ

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Greg - Thanks for the video. We're all excited. I did notice the call sign WC5EOC (Williamson county) was in the front display of the Flex 6700!  Is that a new feature too?? or just a Alpha test??

Now, in keeping with the prior post this morning, "we've all been to the mountain!"  :)

Thanks again,

Brent W8XG (formerly NB4AP)

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Good work Guys!!

Looks very nice, anxious to have a play with it at Orlando!

Lloyd
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The callsign on the front display of the radio is a user configurable option in the GA version of SmartSDR.  It's accessible from the radio configuration window.
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Ken - NM9P

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Nice video. I am very excited about this release.
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Tony Hateley

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I would rather have the real thing sometime
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W5XZ - dan

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nice job, Greg!
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DrTeeth

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That's just cruel, releasing the video before the software :-).
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Stan - VA7NF

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Don't get too excited.  Your version of 1.4 will need to wait on an "American English" to "UK English" translation; and they may have a problem finding someone that "speaks" real English. ;-)
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KY6LA - Howard, Elmer

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Being that I leaned to speak Kanukian and still can spell Labor with a "U" (Labour)
I could take a stab at the translation.
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<Waves hands in air> I'm up for a free trip to translate!

Unlike the vast majority of my countrymen, I still say 'film' instead of 'movie'; 'eyether' instead of 'eether' etc. I'm perfect for the job. :-)
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Translation is always a problem. Here in Texas we have to supply those who have unfortunately been exposed to the environment pervading College Station with a conversion chart from MHz to Mc.
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I remember the Aggies/SMU Ponies jokes from my time at SMU in the 80's. Worse than the IU/Purdue jokes here in Indiana!
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Very nice! Looking forward to both the Lan remote and FM.

Thanks!

73's de Mike
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Guy, at least they didn't chisel the release notes on stone tablets.  :)

This is going to be fun.  Working the gray line at the dinner table or breakfast is no longer just a pipe dream.  The XYL may feel left out, but hey - radio is radio and sunrise/sunset waits for no man.
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Why do you think he schelpped only the first 10 down, LOL?
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George Molnar, KF2T, Elmer

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Nice video, as always, Greg! See you guys in Yuma?
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KY6LA - Howard, Elmer

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George  - You going to Yuma?
I might be there too.. depending on WA3IHV getting his engine on his plane fixed in time for us to fly there.
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Make sure he has a few test flights in it and you do not go on the engine's maiden journey.
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Yes, Howard . Hope to see you there! I'm driving down on Friday, and will be a speaker during the weekend. And hopefully have some flea market success.
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Guy

I flown in enough private planes to understand that he needs to make the maiden journey without me.

George
it's a 2 hour drive for me but the drive is a boring PIA over the mountain pass and across the desert from SD and we need to be up real early to make it interesting.. Flying is 30 minutes.. and the airport is just across the street from the Hamfest..
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Come on up to KHND and pick me up then! I'll buy the first round in Yuma!
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KY6LA - Howard, Elmer

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Sorry.. but already have 5 volunteers for a 4 passenger plane... and that does not include WA3IHV the pilot

What is your talk about and what time will you be talking?
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I C U

Saturday Feb. 21

2:20pm-3:20pmStraight Talk about Auxiliary Communications

George Molnar (KF2T)This presentation is a discussion for hams who would like to assist and support public safety communications. Anyone interested in working with organizations using the Incident Command System (ICS) should attend. This presentation will highlight how responses are organized, and how you can best participate at any level.
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If you can get a second plane I can fly it there.

See Ya' in Yuma,

k3Tim  + SEL / IFR
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No worries, Howard. I need to schlep my flea market stuff back and forth anyway, so that would put the ship out of weight & balance right away! See you in two weeks, where we can (with luck) swap stories about how 1.4 is working out for us.
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"put the ship out of weight & balance" I know my old Boat Anchors would :)
Have fun -- I'll be at Hamcation this weekend... 
Dan --- KC4GO
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when we get anything close to that level of 'connectivity' across the internet, WOW, THAT will really be something, huh?
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Thanks for posting Greg!  It would be wonderful in some future release if the radio and client could reconnect automatically without getting the disconnect pop-up and radio chooser.

-Larry
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Nicely put together video, and a *really* handy feature.  I mean, seriously: Who *wouldn't* want this?  Bravo on your excellent work.

You were *very* wise to build such clear diagnostic capabilities into the client. VERY, very, wise. Just about everyone understands "bars" these days.  Still, I can see future posts here in the community reading: "SSDR sucks because my connection stutters, drops, and doesn't work in my back yard.  It must be SSDR because my 802.11b "router" has been working FB since I got it in 2003!"
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great posting My mouth is watering now.....Jim WU5E
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"That's just cruel, releasing the video before the software :-)."

I think this is called ham operator foreplay.
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@ Rich
I would comment on your post if forum were in the UK and I know it would be found amusing - us British are well known for our toilet humour. I am mindful that it is hosted in a country where the name of a female dog and the 4 letter synonym for the underworld are commonly bleeped out. I'll have to keep my dirty mind to myself for risk a ban/censure.
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Great video!
What software are you using to create the videos?
Thanks.
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Nice feature. What is the wine?
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Many thanks for the preview ... Looks very good.

k3Tim
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Nice kitchen
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You should have seen the bathroom before Mrs. Jurrens nixed the scene.
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Outstanding demonstration. Now if I could just figure out how to use even 10% of the capabilities of the radio. BTW the actor in the demo obviously is making do with advertising spots pending his next Hollywood or Broadway gig. I predict Oscars in his future.
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High powered.
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Looks great.  Waiting for WAN here and hope can work about as well.  New remote antenna farm here needs connecting.  73, Carl/K5HK in Reno NV
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Looks great.  What impressed me is the reduction of data received while operating the radio.  At 15 fps my receive data is currently 2.7 Mbps for one receive frame open.  If I change the frame refresh rate to 30 fps, the receive data transfered jumps to about 3.5 Mbps.  In the video, the RX rate was 25 Kbps.  This is about one thousandth the data transfer to listen to the radio.  This appears to be set for WAN use in the future.  BTW, if I open 4 receive frames on my Flex 6500, the receive data jumps to about 8.5 Mbps on my current Ethernet connection.  Thanks for the video!
73, Don KB6TSQ
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Don, here is the FLEX-6700 running hard wired LAN remote on 8 panadapters and 8 slices.  DAX is also running on one channel to Fldigi (not shown).  Network traffic is only 9 Mbps!  CPU loading is 15% both as shown in lower right corner of the screen shot.  This is the RTTY contest from this weekend.  This is a major improvement in performance over v1.3.8.  The audio is perfect on this setup over the LAN even with 8 receivers.  If you are running WiFi, your results may vary depending on QRM from other WiFi routers in the neighborhood.

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Just curious, what happens if you spread the panafalls over several bands instead of one ( 20 meters)? Would having to handle a broader spectrum of activity create a bigger load and more network traffic? As it is, it appears that being all in the same band it is simply repeating the same thing 8 times. Either way, displaying that much info over the LAN with little loading is impressive.
james
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Sounds ready for release, hi hi.
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Gerald, Thanks for the illustration. Will this reduction to 9 Mbps result only while running in remote, or will a similar low data rate obtain when running in the "standard" mode? If not, then what would one give up by running remote when proximity would allow running "standard?"
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Guy are on CW?
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looks good to me , publish it

Jim

WU5E

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"If you didn't test, it doesn't work" - IEEE Computer V35, Issue 5 / DOI: 10.1109/MC.2002.999770

Stick to plan
10  test
20  If no Bugs Then ShipIt
30  fix bugs
40  GoTo 10
50  END

Excellent work by the crack programming staff to pull this much performance out of the system in this amount of time with bug fixes and enhancements thrown at them also.

Many Thanks for the Update.

Tim

PS:  Gerald : Between you and me gave you give ETA as to ship date.  I'm seasoned in the s/w biz to know what E means.
tim at povlick dot com

 C U all in Yuma
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James, the number of bands makes no difference.  

Jim, in "standard mode" you are running audio directly to the speakers so there is no impact for that.  Remote is the worst case since I am running 8 streams of audio and video.  

DAX and DAX IQ are full bandwidth since there is no data compression involved.  

Tim, your Basic or is that Fortran program is 100% correct.  Also called a "Do Loop."  We just need a plug for a memory leak.  ;>)
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@ Burt

Not yet. I have a lot of work to do to get my CW up to a usable speed.
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Then why did you say, "HI,HI?" Those are CW abbreviations.
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DrTeeth

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So are the Q codes also used in speech and writing. I bet you use them too ;-).
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On voice I say location, not QTH, I say received, not QSL, sadly I have used QSB, I say contact, not QSO. If something is funny I laugh, I do not sound ridiculous by saying, HI HI. In other words I speak English.
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I am a radio amateur, therefore I use Q-codes and speak and write cw. If I order in a restaurant, I say: Can u give me 2 of those ufb steaks, pls? Everybody understands that, why should I change the way I speak? Ok, I'm German, but I talk and write cw in English. I even dream in abbreviations, which is much more effective! OK, I did give up telling my yl that I didadidit dadadah didididah dit her... 
:-P
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10-4
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As my YL is also a fellow ham, in the morning I ask her: dear YL, is there a lot of QRM and QRN on the QRG? Should we QSY to another QRG or change our QRA? All right, a bit QLF today so my QRP CW is not ufb. See, that comes quite easily, you should practice a bit....
:-P
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Q-Signals were created to be an international CW abbreviation for those who didn't speak the same language. They have morphed into voice modes over the decades, but they still serve the same function in international contacts where not everyone speaks the same language. or at least not with the same fluency.  Someone can say QRM, QRM and be understood when saying "There are a lot of people interfering with you" would not be understood.
   
But then, Anglo-centrism is a problem on the ham bands.  I have heard English speaking hams fire up right on top of stations of another nationality as though they didn't have a right to exist on "their" ham bands, and as though they wouldn't really be causing harmful interference to the other stations because they were speaking another language.
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And if you really want to have a fun conversation you can refer to this:
Let's add the Z signals
http://jcs.dtic.mil/j6/cceb/acps/acp131/ACP131F09.pdf
Look up ZBM2

From my Navy Days 1962-1966... had to memorize all the Q and Z signals to get out of school along with 22 WPM in 5 character groups and type it letter perfect. Now the Navy doesn't have code (Radiomen and CT's) Just IT folks... It's all 1's and 0's.. 

Just some fun stuff.. I like it.. 

Dan --- KC4GO
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@ Gerald

If 1.4 has had a video made featuring it and your have had it running as you have said (overnight with 8 slices IIRC), I'd be MORE than happy to use it now and wait for a point bug release/official release to fix the memory leak.

It could be released with a 'no support' rider if necessary. Happy to sign an NDA if needed.

SSDR installs do not update each other but install in parallel so there is no problem reverting to a previous version.

I have one week to go before I go back to work after doing nothing for two months (spine surgery) and having 1.4 available before I go back will go some way to distract me from the apprehension of having to work for a living again, hi hi (soz Burt).

Obviously, I can wait until official release and I am gratified that your standards are so high.

With kindest regards and very best wishes.
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@ Gerald

If 1.4 has had a video made featuring it and your have had it running as you have said (overnight with 8 slices IIRC), I'd be MORE than happy to use it now and wait for a point bug release/official release to fix the memory leak.

It could be released with a 'no support' rider if necessary. Happy to sign an NDA if needed.

SSDR installs do not update each other but install in parallel so there is no problem reverting to a previous version.

I have one week to go before I go back to work after doing nothing for two months (spine surgery) and having 1.4 available before I go back will go some way to distract me from the apprehension of having to work for a living again, hi hi (soz Burt).

Obviously, I can wait until official release and I am gratified that your standards are so high.

With kindest regards and very best wishes.
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Of course there will be those that maintain you must have 100 Gigabit Ethernet speed for proper SDR performance.
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Sometimes maintaining proper overkill percentages, can be a killer. Over and out.

Jay - NO5J
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Thanks Gerald,

Here is a screen shot of the current system at my QTH using about 9.1 Mbps.  I am impressed with the improvements.  Thanks for sharing.

73, Don KB6TSQ
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Hi Don, 
How do you get the slices to be side by side? Or is this a new version feature?
Thanks.
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It's a skill. I haven't mastered it either. I've done it, no idea how I did it though, that rarely slows me down. Just need to break it harder.

Jay - NO5J
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Salvador and Jay,
I normally do not run 4 receive frames....LOL.  But if you do, just shrink the size of the main flex window until they move side by side....or maybe mine is broken.
Have fun!
73, Don
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Ok, thanks I will try tomorrow.
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Jay / NO5J

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Thanks
I'll give that a whirl. or a squeeze.
Jay - NO5J
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what does WIDE mean in the picture on each panadapter?
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From the manual...

When zooming out with a FLEX-6000 radio there are certain points where the size of the data used to create the display on the screen will need to be doubled. As this occurs there will be more noise taken into account while processing the display which will cause a noticeable increase in the noise floor. The reverse occurs when zooming in on a panadapter. After zooming out to a certain point, the hardware will switch to wideband mode. When this occurs, any panadapters that are affected by this change will display "WIDE" in the top right corner to indicate that it is in wideband mode. When in Wideband the radio will open up the Bandpass Filters as wide as they can go for any panadapters or slice receivers that are using that Antenna. Note that the FLEX-6300 is always in WIDE mode and will not show this indicator.
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It would be interesting to note if anyone actually notices a difference in receive (on a signal that they are listening to) when that happens.
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Robert, thank you.  I have a 6300 that explains why I have never seen the WIDE message before.
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Regarding can you see/hear a difference. 
I think it depends on the conditions and band, on 40 meters  where I spend a bit of time yes. I can tell the difference when I keep the bandwidth narrow out of the wide position, but I think that's only for the 6500 & 6700  Refer to section 7.3 of the FLEX-6000 Signature Series - SmartSDR for Windows Software User’s Guide.  For a description of the WIDE indication. 

Dan --- KC4GO
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Thanks, what is the difference that you notice on a particular signal? I would think that the band pass filter is for the entire 40m band and there is another for each ham band etc.
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You would be hard pressed to see or hear any difference in most cases unless you are in a high signal environment where you needed the attenuation to prevent ADC (SCU) overload.
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I talked with the Director of EMA in our county who is also a ham. He is setting up a new EOC that includes VHF/UHF and HF Amateur Radio, and seemed very interested in the LAN remote capability that will be released in 1.4. I will be giving him a demo once it is released and I have mastered it. Any suggestions I should include as part of a proposed 6300 EOC setup?
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You need to contact Greg K5GJ @ FlexRadio directly and inquire.  He knows this landscape very well.
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FLDIGI and FLMSG contains the ICS forms that are commonly used by emergency management.
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Searching for a home in Fernadina Beach, FL. But seeing this was torture, having the 6700 in a  box and no antennas.