New Maestro data sheet

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A new Maestro data sheet ready for download

http://www.flexradio.com/downloads/maestro-datasheet-pdf/

73 Chris
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Changes i found:

Ethernet: 10/100/1000 Mbps

now

Ethernet: 10/100 Mbps
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• External Speaker Impedance: 5.4W@ 4 Ohms, 3.0W @
8 Ohms with THD+N: 1%

now

• Powered Speaker Output: Stereo consumer line level
 or powered speaker output, 1/8" (3.5mm) TRS
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Electrical
• Power: 10-15 VDC
• Battery: Optional Lithium-ion battery

now

Electrical
• Power: 10-15 VDC
• Standard wall mount AC adapter
• Battery: Optional Lithium-ion battery
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Options
• Removable tilt hinge feet
• VESA to RAM® mount
• Li-ion battery pack with charger
• FlexRadio FHM-1 hand mic
• Wall mount AC adapter

now

Options
• Tilt hinge feet (constant torque)
• Travel power pack (battery & wall wart). Each item also
available individually
• FlexRadio FHM-1 hand mic
• Carry case
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Slower network speed? 10/100 down from 10/100/1000!
Might or might not, be a problem for some.
James
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Or a typo
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I don't think typo. 100 is more then max. needed
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There are a lot of issues to manage with the very highest speed (1000 nominal) systems that FRS is wise to avoid.

Unless all parts of a home network are carefully done there is a reasonable likelihood the speed will fall back regardless, making the 1000 investment more risk than advantage.

73

Steve K9ZW
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Maestro consumes about 2.5 Mbps running full throttle.
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Steve, that and other connectivity issues, contention, slow or failing segment, etc is what the TCP/IP stack resolves.. What ever.

Thanks Gerald, for clarifying the hwm.
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Bearing in mind that the Maestro is likely to cost around GBP1,000 (around USD1,500) here in the UK, it is quite disappointing that the feet and travel pack are optional extras.  I have been pestering both the UK importers for prices for these - which I consider essential but they are not able to help.  
Generally you just turn the dollar sign to a pound sign and you are there!  Anyone know what the US prices for these options (and the carry case) are likely to be?
I am (like so many, I am sure) waiting for this darned device ...
David G4NRT
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The Maestro Includes free 30 degree angled feet

Adjustable ftilt eet are extra

Tilt Feet (ACC-MTF)

Black anodized aluminum variable tilt feet with high quality constant torque hinges. Allows tilt from 0-90 degrees from vertical. Feet fold flat for easier transport of your Maestro. $99.95

Soft-side Travel Case (ACC-SC)

Soft-side canvas bag with FlexRadio logo for on-the-go. Room for Maestro, headset and numerous accessory items. This case can alternately be configured to carry any FLEX-6000 series radio. $129.95

Personally the Maestro will go in my carry on bag on airplanes albeit with the new weight (10kg-13Kg) limits and number limits (1) on carry-on I might have to stick it in with luggage

in both cases the extra bag is redundant. Extra weight
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Howard
We keep seeing videos of the flex.  Are the feet on the flex in the videos the included feet or are they the optional extra tilt feet?  Do you know?
Cheers
Wayne
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Included; it's the standard base
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ok, thanks Chris
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and flex in my post should have been maestro
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Thank you for clarifying the feet and the carry-bag.  What about the battery?  What does it contain?  If the Wifi in the battery enclosure or what?  How about price?  Finally, will there be a UK/EU charger?

Thanks,

David G4NRT
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Yes there will be a UK/EU charger $34.95. But likely they might ship a EU/UK charger with the unit to EU/UK. Albeit I need one for my travels

The battery will be an off the shelf 12V Li Battery with auto start I expect Flex to publish a list of acceptable ones you could purchase locally to avoid the shipping of Li batteries issues.
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Thank you so much Howard.  That is really useful information ... 


73,  David G4NRT
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Thanks Howard, I too was wondering about Li batteries, having read recently of airline restrictions with them. 
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The battery voltage requirement is actually 5V.  While any battery technology is probably OK, the recommendation is for Lithium Polymer (abbreviated LiPo, LIP, etc) because of the compartment size and shape and the energy density of a LiPo battery.  There are two ports required on the battery -- a female USB A port for discharge and a female USB Micro B for charge.  There are other size, capacity, etc. requirements and recommendations and by Maestro launch we'll have posted these.  

You should be able to buy batteries for about $25 that will last on the order of 5-6 hours each.  While we have not tested this part of the design yet, Maestro should allow hot-swap of batteries meaning you will get a warning of discharge on the battery in the unit and you will be given some time (probably a couple of minutes) to put a new battery in without a restart of the Maestro occurring.  This means you could pay on the order of $100 for 4-5 batteries and run Maestro off these for a 24-hour period with no external power and no restarts.  

This is currently a "wireless only" feature -- if you are running wired Ethernet, the loss of internal power will disconnect the Ethernet and the radio will likely disconnect before you can juggle a new battery into place.  We're thinking about whether this is a problem or not -- the general thinking is that you are most likely to run "shore power and wired Ethernet" or "battery power and wireless" making this a non-issue for the wired crowd.
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The battery voltage requirement is actually 5V.  While any battery technology is probably OK, the recommendation is for Lithium Polymer (abbreviated LiPo, LIP, etc) because of the compartment size and shape and the energy density of a LiPo battery.  There are two ports required on the battery -- a female USB A port for discharge and a female USB Micro B for charge.  There are other size, capacity, etc. requirements and recommendations and by Maestro launch we'll have posted these.  

You should be able to buy batteries for about $25 that will last on the order of 5-6 hours each.  While we have not tested this part of the design yet, Maestro should allow hot-swap of batteries meaning you will get a warning of discharge on the battery in the unit and you will be given some time (probably a couple of minutes) to put a new battery in without a restart of the Maestro occurring.  This means you could pay on the order of $100 for 4-5 batteries and run Maestro off these for a 24-hour period with no external power and no restarts.  

This is currently a "wireless only" feature -- if you are running wired Ethernet, the loss of internal power will disconnect the Ethernet and the radio will likely disconnect before you can juggle a new battery into place.  We're thinking about whether this is a problem or not -- the general thinking is that you are most likely to run "shore power and wired Ethernet" or "battery power and wireless" making this a non-issue for the wired crowd.
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Steve what size (height, width and dept) of powerbank would fit the Maestro battery compartment? Any recommendation on capacity (10000+ mAh)? On youtube there is a video showing a Mogix powerbank, unclear what size or capacity that one is.
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This battery is not available in the UK. Will an alternative be suggested for buyers outside the US? I do not think that batteries of this type are allowed to be sent by air from the USA.

David G4NRT
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/Foxnovo-10400...

Check the dimensions but this looked about the same from Amazon UK
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This one

http://www.tenergy.com/51063

 slightly longer (6" instead of 5.5").  Wonder if it would fit.  I have aforementioned battery and one of several things I like about is the metal case for protection against damage.

http://www.tenergy.com/51060

a shorter but thicker battery. Wonder if that would work. 
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I know this size fits in my Maestro and yes it charges in the Maesro from AC

Size (LWH): 5.3 inches, 2.9 inches, 0.47 inches
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Thank you Howard. I'll convert those sizes to metric and see what will fit!!

David G4NRT

P.S. I think that America will go metric inch-by-inch!!
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They tried to in the 1970's but it failed because the lunatic fringe thought it was a Communist Plot to make it easier to invade the USA.
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I'll bring my "mic" to Yuma Hamfest (this weekend) and determine the max size possible.
It might be interesting to have an optional battery cover that allows a thicker battery to be used.
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C U in Yuma
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Hey Howard,

Looking forward to meeting you in person..

Tim
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Good to see all you guys in Yuma ... the wx was perfecto.   It was also nice to get a chance to wwwwWWWWOOOOOOOOOSSSSHHHHHHhhhhh talk to you guys in-between F-35 fly-overs.
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Thanks Steve, it was nice meeting you and the other folks from FRS.

Some time on the Maestro was very rewarding - it's a great product...

Tim
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Tim

We must have crossed paths at Yuma

C U at Visalia DXConvention or Dayton?
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What connecting cable will I need or does one come with this battery on Amazon?
Second thought does a cable come with Maestro?

10,400 mah

http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...

Clay N9IO
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Hi Howard,

Sorry I somehow missed your post. Won't make V-DX con but perhaps Dayton. It would be nice if "Dayton" moved to Pittsburgh if you ask me.

Tim
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It would be nicer if Dayton moved to Massachusetts.Boston has awesome convention accommodations.

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...  and closer to a international airport
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Anywhere but Dayton

FYI. Last time I was at Friedrichshafen it was Not near an International Airport but at least the bathrooms worked
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And absolutely INCREDIBLE dining establishments. In Boston, that is. Every time I've been to RedHat Summit, the accommodations were first class. I even know where they serve outstanding steak tartare, so I am guessing Howard would be on board. Oh, wine selection is excellent as well.

I even am willing to bet Burt would come ashore for that as well.
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2@Walt

While I personally like Boston it is impractical for the major venue for hamfests.
Boston has terrible traffic and no parking

Dayton is near the middle of the population center and easy driving distance for most hams.

You probably heard that they failed to fix Hara arena as promised.

It looks like the Hamcation in Orlando will take the mantle from Dayton albeit Florida is not California
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Pgh has a huge / modern Intnl airport (it was rebuilt ~15 yrs ago).
Not sure if there is a venue closer to the airport for a hamfest but it is likely. Airport it is 12 miles from "Duntown". There's a 1.5 million SqFt convention center in city town that could house everything.  Geographically its close to the Wash-DC to Boston corridor.

Food - that's covered.
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Howard, I was referring to the convention district, walking distance from the financial district and of course outstanding mass transit. Nobody drives in Boston. Have you been to Boston since the big dig? Logan is a major international destination.
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@Walt

The issue is with most Hamfests is that Hams are CHEAP and POOR so they need to be able to drive and sleep in their RV's... Boston is not only big city expensive but also it is a at the far right of the country.  Hard to drive there from the center of Population  - FYI have not lived in or been in Boston since they started the Big Dig except for transfers at the airport

@Tim

PGH is more central than Boston..which I guess is good... those of us from California need to fly anyways.. 4 days in a car is a real schlep.

My favorite hamfest is still Friedrichshafen (Which I have to miss this year due to XYL schlepping grandkids to France)

The best thing for Ham Radio would be for the Hara Arena to finally collapse due to lack of maintenance...so the Big One can move somewhere else. But that is totally off topic....


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I've never had the opportunity to go to Dayton - it's on my bucket list - but I do enjoy Friedrichshafen.

Excellent and cheap hotel nearby, absolutely first rate food and drink in the town. The only downside being it is a bit of a bugger to get to!

That said, myself and Rupert G0TKZ are driving down from the UK again this year. It's a must on my calendar and it is the Sterling / Euro exchange rate that determines how much I spend there. A highly recommended trip!!

David G4NRT
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Howard, I am beginning to believe ham ops are cheap is a figment of someone's imagination. Likely 75% of the people on here bought an $8,000 radio. Not cheap. Of the 25% that bought a $5,000 version likely a third sold it at a loss and bought the $8,000 version. Not cheap. Likely a third pilgrim to Dayton Ohio once a year. Not cheap. How many go to EU once a year in addition to Dayton because there are still things that can only be bought in Europe. Not cheap. Ken is the only one I recall saying he RVs to Dayton. I've been to Pittsburgh, I don't recall one RV park. I didn't even mention those that bought the $2500 version sold and bought the top of the line. Nor have I mentioned the number who shelled out an additional $1,100 +/- for another control surface.

Then there are those that, in addition to a flex, have a complete K-line, high end ICOM, and likely a yaesu or two.
Cheap and poor? I think not so much ;-)

Yes, a little ot but the notion we're all poor is kinda funny.
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@Walt

This group may be the exception to the hams are cheap and poor rule..

It is so evident at Dayton that people are not swimming in disposable income... The RV parks are full, there are people camping in tents.. the flea market is full of crap I would not waste the gas to schlep anywhere other than the dump...

If you look at the area surrounding the Dayton Hamfest.. pure Rustbelt...visible poverty, boarded up plazas and businesses... really 3rd world...

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@David

I am frankly quite sorry to miss Friedrichshafen this year but the XYL sets the agenda not me...

Definitely the best Hamfest(Caveat - have not been to Hamcation but I hav) ...best technical talks (on Par with TAPR) .. best beer... best food.. and clean bathrooms that actually work and are not flooded...

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Howard, this is real Ham Spirit: i will go for you to Friedrichshafen and drink your 2 beers ( we always drink only 2 beers; the first and the last)
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@Howard, well what one can say as far as disclaimer for this group yes I agree but where that hurt my thesis I ignored it, can also be said for the Elecraft enthusiasts, EME'ers, Alpha linear owners, Promethius linear owners, 2KFA owners etc.

I think it is difficult, with a straight face, to say we are a cheap, penny pinching group. Believe it or not, some people have a camper because they enjoy camping. Then there is simply going to Dayton vs calling HRO and ordering what you want with the Dayton discount extended.

At this juncture I've either made my point or haven't. ... -.-
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Clay, that power pack is 5V to charge phones and tablets.  The Maestro should use 12V.
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Actually, the DC input to Maestro is nominally 12V, but the battery voltage is 5V to accommodate the numerous inexpensive cell phone batteries on the market.  

The Maestro includes the cables to connect the battery to the unit -- there are two plugs on the Maestro end: 1) a USB micro-B for charging and, 2) a USB A for powering the Maestro
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Good solution.
Is there also a 12 V connector for portable/mobile operation like field-day? 
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Yes
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What is the power consumption of the Maestro? Or the endurance per 1000mAH on the 5v internal battery? VK5CV
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Thanks for the great info all. Ordering a battery before the surge, ha!
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THANK YOU, STEVE!!!  I had watched that video clip, and wondered about those cables.  This makes a whole lot more sense now!  I'd LOVE to see a list of ACCESSORIES with pictures, explaining the difference between the "constant torque" feet, the "30 degree stand" and other accessories.  Hopefully with prices too.