N1MM+ is available!

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As described in my thread HOW-TO: Setup FLEX-6X00 with N1MM / CW Skimmer for multiple slice contest operating, I am a big fan of SSDR in combination with N1MM.

Today (maybe a little late) I found ot that N1MM+ (beta) is available.

Everything works fine with my setup.

Have fun trying it!

VY73
Tom
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Ned K1NJ

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Tom,  does it key cw directly from the program?

Ned,  K1NJ
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Ned,

at the moment, I use a NanoKeyer (K1EL-protocol) to key via N1MM, and the NanoKeyer forwards it to SSDR. Works perfect.

VY 73
Tom
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Tom, did yoou discover if its possible to send CWX directly to N1MM without additional hardware?
How about N1MM+ ?
Thanks,
Tom, 9A6TKS
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Hi Tom,

Not yet. But I will post results here as soon as I figured it out.

VY73
Tom
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As of this morning's N1MM+ build, SmartSDR 1.3 focus return is working! Download is available at http://n1mmplus.hamdocs.com/tiki-list_file_gallery.php

Enjoy!

73 Ed W2RF
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Stan - VA7NF

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FRS - What is your direction/current activity for direct support of N1MM?

V1.0 - CW Keying via DTR or RTS doesn't key the transmitter, PTT is triggered but no RF.  External wire from computer com to accessory pin via keying transistor.

V1.3 - Cat KY introduced but only functions as a special add-on to the macros - Doesn't work on CTL+K keyboard console - No support in hardware panel - Doesn't support WinKey protocol.  Still no DTR/RTS support.

What is the status (FRS viewpoint) of full N1MM+ support for CW, voice, and digital?

This question is at the VFO-A / VFO-B level, not at the SO8R level.

73, Stan Williams, VA7NF 


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We have added code in SmartSDR v1.3 to support focus return for N1MM.  It works with both N1MM and the latest version of N1MM+ (as of a couple of days ago).  For details on how to use this, check the SmartSDR documentation.  Briefly, it returns focus of the mouse back to N1MM after something is done in SmartSDR.  For example, if you click on the preamp in SmartSDR, focus will revert to N1MM after that is done so that when you type, hit keys, etc. they go to N1MM.

We were asked by the N1MM team to implement the focus return before adding any other features in our software to support N1MM.  We are in contact with the developers and will be discussing what we should do next.  We have casually discussed how to handle CW keying support as well as voice keying, but we do not have a "plan" yet.

We have a task in our development list to implement WinKeyer protocol on a virtual serial port.  This would mean you could point a Winkeyer protocol aware program that uses serial ports at this port and send CW through that interface.  This item is not yet scheduled, but we do know what to do.  I will say that when we discussed this with some others including some N1MM folks that it was questioned if this was the "right" way to do this and if it would actually be used.  Any feedback you guys can provide in this area would be beneficial -- we don't want to do something you won't use.  Also, we mentioned that we had Kenwood KY command support in CAT, but we got the distinct impression that the N1MM folks do not want to use CAT for this purpose (and we don't blame them).

Beyond the things I've mentioned, there are no other plans.  We would appreciate understanding if other things are needed.

Steve
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   Steve,

      From your CWX comments in the August "Insider" next to last paragraph:

    "CWX is likely to be used most by DXers and rag chewers.  If you are contesting with a logging program, the CWX interface is available through the SmartSDR API -- with simple commands CW can be sent from logging programs using the FLEX TCP/IP API.  CAT can also be used to send CW through CWX.   The CWX panel does not need to be open for external programs to send using CWX."

      It sounded to me as if this capability was in the release.

              "CAT can also be used to send CW through CWX."
   
    How do we do this?  To which port?  What type of port?

Ned,  K1NJ
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You use a CAT port on the PC and use the KY CAT command.  I believe there is a defect in the code, though -- the command we implemented does not expect to see KY0xxxx but expects to see KYxxxx.  We have fixed this and will be releasing a point release that has this fix.  This is how it will operate.

This is designed to help with legacy applications, but if you are developing something new, I would recommend the TCP/IP API to the radio so you bypass all the virtual serial ports, etc.
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My needs are fairly simple ( same as Stan's above if I have understood his comment correctly). I use n1mm and now n1mm+ beta for most of my contesting. I have been using microham microkeyer for years with k1el chip to provide cw, and yaesu or icom voice keyers manually. What i need to persuade me to purchase a flex 6000 radio (other than for dxing which the qsk cw now provides for) is at least basic integration with n1mm+ . It sounds like you are getting there with 1.3 and the focus sorted. I need it to key and send whatever cw message i have put in function keys in n1mm and i need it to provide the linkage between the n1mm function keys and an inbuilt voice keyer or wave files. I want to do away with micro keyer and be able to switch antenna switch via smartsdr and the accessory output on a 6000 radio. I have just sold on my microham so2r mk2r+ as it was just too complicated for me - i am hoping to make the switch to sdr for my contesting and to link to logger32 for general dxing this autumn - but not if its going to be too painful a transition:-). I do not need so2r yet but do need so2v to work between n1mm+ and 6300 and 6500, otherwise i am better sticking with my pro3 and ts590 for now and/or buying a ft5k until the 6000 radios can deliver what i need for contesting. Keep up the good progress. 73 Steve gw0gei
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I would say that contesting is rather important pillar for high-end transceivers. Having said this I would define my needs as follows:

-Connection to N1MM+ as kinda contesting industry standard logging software
-CW, Voice keying and RTTY keying from the logger
-SO2V setup
-No additional hardware like external keyers as MicroHam
-integration with CW skimmer on multiple bands

 Tecchnical concept like TCP/IP API or KY CAT commands are less relevant to me, just to work reliably in a contests.

Its basically same requirements what we put in front of traditional transceivers + elimination of external hardware + broadband skimmer. Nothing more and nothing less.

Thank you,

Tom, 9A6TKS
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Tom,

for me, the preliminary solution via my NanoKeyer is okay until Flex can offer an easier solution!

Have a look here: HOW-TO: Setup FLEX-6X00 with N1MM / CW Skimmer for multiple slice contest operating

VY73
Tom
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While I am no longer a hard-core contester, I do like to dabble in one now and then.  Historically, I think, most contest loggers have been able to key the radio, through a serial port, with a simple transistor switch (now usb / serial converters, it seems); k5lc explained to me the issue is that sometimes the logger messages were getting 'choppy' on cw; thus, the emergence of the k1el winkey.

I too would like to eliminate my extra, external winkeyer...73, w5xz, dan
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Sergey, R5AU

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Hi Tom, via CWX, on the screenshot above you can see a macro editor with CW messages 
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Sergey,
now you are talking.

Great news, I just need to learn syntax to setup messages.

Do you integrate skimmers with a bridge?

Thank you,

Tom, 9A6TKS
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Sergey, R5AU

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Of course, started: SSDR + SDR Bridge + N1MM+ + WinTelnetX
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I know that is is old, but is there a bit more info setting up WinTelnetX?  I was about to install an external K1EL keyer, but I like keeping it all in software.  

Mike va3mw
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Michael,

did you try my worflow described here: HOW-TO: Setup FLEX-6X00 with N1MM / CW Skimmer for multiple slice contest operating ?

The needed WinTelnetX-file is linked there.

HNY es VY73
Tom
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