Maestro Questions

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I just have a couple question relating to the Maestro.

1. Does the Maestro only allow you to operate SSB and CW?
2. Can you operate digital modes such as Rtty, PSK and Others?

I know that you can connect a Paddle and Microphone to the Maestro. But If I wanted to operate digital modes without using DAX and SDR can I?

Thanks!
Mark Griffin, KB3Z
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Walt - KZ1F

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Not without another computer to run HRD or Fldigi. As they don't open pans, they can coexist.
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As walt said you just have to run your digi software and DAX on the PC still. SSDR will be on the Maestro.

I suppose if you really wanted to you could hook the audio in and out from the maestro to a tablet and do it AFSK with some digital SW on the tablet.

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To clarify, you would run FLDigi or MMTTY on your shack computer, but would not need to run SmartSDR in it. The DAX and CAT drivers in your shack computer carry all the info needed for your digi programs. But if you are running remotely over a VPN, there is not yet any easy way to run digi.

Notice the "not YET." This software release is just the FIRST public Maestro release. Who knows what will be coming down the pile yet? But if past is prologue, there may be many nice surprises along the way. SSDR has changed and improved a lot in the past three years.
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The Kx3's cw to psk/rtty mode is pretty cool and requires no extra stuff but i wouldnt expect that unless eventually FRS plans on tying CW/PSK/RTTY decoding into the rig which i suppose is possible. The ultimate in my mind would be being able to pair a BT keyboard to the Maestro and using that for CWX, RTTY and PSK. That would be SLICK

I ordered some cables to hook my Maestro to may Android tablet when it arrives. There are several applications for digital modes, Im thinking turn vox on and let it rip.

Should be a similar operation style as to using KX3 companion, My tablet and BT keyboard with the kx3 when i travel.

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It's more than they don't need to, they can't have it. Only one application can connect to the radio as client gui, as that is what Maestro and SSDRfW introduces itself as. You can have multiple client programs connect to the radio, just none but Maestro or SSDRfW or XPSSDR or Dogpatch or Stu's as something that actually does panadapters. You can't create a pan without specifying client gui. So, in that sense one implies the other.
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So in other words Walt, the Software causes a limitation on the Hardware. Not to be nasty, but that's the way I would look at it.
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I agree with Mark, And they have already mentioned that they will eventually support maestro SSDR and a computer instance in some way in the future so we can have the panadapters up on the big screen.
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Mark, look seriously at the Microsoft Surface Pro 4. You can do all that you want, excepting CW, from the tablet. 
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I find a significant number of bad reviews of the Surface 4 Pro. A lot of bugs and glitches... almost like a luck of the draw kind of deal on getting one without problems. Any comment? I imagine that if you recommended it is because yours is working....
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I can run 4 panadapters and waterfalls with SSDR, Fldigi for RTTY and PSK, JTX, find call signs on QRZ.com, read the news, check my email ... without any issues. No dropouts. I tend not to do this because, apparently, I am one of the few that actually enjoy sitting in my ham-shack. I also enjoy tuning and loading the plates of the tubes in my linear amplifier. I like the smell of orange-glow 3-500Z's in the morning, don't mind turning the antenna and attempting to learn about the country I am working and something about the ham on the other end of the connection. I have a globe ... I QSL because the grandkids like to look at them on the wall.

The Microsoft Surface Pro 4 has settled out into a very nice laptop/tablet with Windows 10.

W7NGA  dan
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I appreciate everyone's comments. Presently to operate digital modes, I connect my computer to my Digi-Keyer II and then to the transceiver.

So, is one able to connect their computer to a Digi-Keyer II and then to the Maestro, and the Maestro to the Flexradio?

Then couldn't you avoid the DAX and perhaps other issues?

Just a thought!

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If you were in the shack i would just run the digital program thru dax and to the rig while running the maestro for radio control. dax and cat from the pc can operate in parallel with maestro.

if you feel like roaming the house or remoting i think we should be able to use the audio in and out on Maestro in conjunction with apps on a phone or tablet, Using vox instead of PTT. Ill tell you if it works when mine arrives.

I see no reason to do this unless you are talking about working remotely "So, is one able to connect their computer to a Digi-Keyer II and then to the Maestro, and the Maestro to the Flexradio?"

If in shack you can skip the digikeyer entirely and just use dax,cat and your digital program.

 In my opinion one of the best things about this radio is dax and cat. Its all over ethernet and digital until it gets to the radio instead of going thru sound cards and being carried via analog.

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I should have been more specific guys and stating if I was running the Maestro remotely in another room.
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Mark,
Just my opinion, but If you are in the other room, but on the same LAN,  and you still need a computer to run the digital modes  I still think dax and ssdr cat is your best bet.  just install ssdr once and get cat and dax clients running, then you can run Maestro with your laptop with cat and dax installed (leaving SSDR off) and that would be your best  and easiest bet to get your digital interfaces rolling. 
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I suppose in its rawest form this could be "possible" by using vox to key the Maestro, and pumping the raw audio out of Maestro into a sound card on the computer but since you need the computer for the SSDR CAT to do frequency tracking at this time, I am really not sure you are getting any huge benefit and this seems somewhat inefficient and expensive(added equipment and complication, sound level adjustments etc.) to provide function that already works.

DAX has the added benefit of removing cables from the set up.  This has a number of big benefits, including the elimination of RFI points, as well as reducing clutter.  If you are having challenges with DAX it may be best to work through those challenges with the flex team.

The bottom line answer to your question is there is not a native cat or digital interface to the Maestro stand alone client as of this first release.   
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Thanks Chris!

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