Maestro Control Console for the FLEX-6000

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Battery purchase options?? what are they or should we assume you don't supply.

Your Maestro will ship with the following accessories: 

  • Fixed Stand (set at angle)
  • 6 foot DC Power Cable
  • AC/DC Power Supply
  • 7 foot Ethernet cable
  • 1/4" to 1/8" adapter - qty. 1 
  • Quick Start Guide

 

Optional accessories will be:

U.S. AC Power Supply (spare)

120/240 VAC to 12 VDC wall mount power supply with US two prong plug

$29.95

International AC Power Supply

120/240 VAC to 12 VDC 25W power supply for international usage.  AC inlet provides 3-pole IEC320-C14 connector with power cord options available for EU, UK, Continental Europe or ROW.

$34.95

DC Power Cable (spare)

7 foot DC power cable with 2.1mm barrel plug and pigtails for direct connection to a 13.8 VDC shack power bus.

$12.00

Tilt Feet

Variable tilt feet with constant torque.  Feet fold flat for easier transport of your Maestro.

$89.95

Handheld Microphone with RJ-45 Connector

Handheld microphone with RJ-45 connector to use with Maestro.  This same mic is used on the FLEX-1500 and FLEX-3000 transceivers.

    

$59.99

RJ-45 Mic Adapter Cable

Microphone cable with RJ-45 connector. Used to replace foster cable that shipped on hand-mic supplied with the FLEX-6X00 transceivers.

$12.00

Soft-side Travel Case

Soft-side canvas bag with FlexRadio logo for on-the-go.  Room for Maestro, headset, keyer, cables and numerous accessory items.  Separately, this case can also be used to carry your FLEX-6000 Series radio.

 

$129.95

 

In addition, we are looking into offering a hard-side SKB case with a custom insert for Maestro with some room for additional accessory items.  This case would be branded with the Maestro and/or the FlexRadio logo and would retail for approximately $200.  If this item would be of interest please also be sure to note that on your survey response and we will notify you once we begin offering this accessory.

 


 


Dear CEO what purchase options are or will you be offering on Maestro battery, I don't see any offered as yet.

Please kindly advise.
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Rob G6EIH

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Posted 3 years ago

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KF4HR

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Rob - When I met the Flex reps at a hamfest recently I seem to remember hearing the Maestro was designed to work with off-the-shelf battery packs, such as this one: http://www.amazon.com/Mogix-Accessories-10400mAh-External-Battery/dp/B00MFVNLXK/ref=sr_1_1?s=electro...
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Rob G6EIH

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Yes I think I did read that and thanks for the link however finding the same item on Amazon.co.uk does not exist, prefer to use recommended accessories when recommended. I guess I can look for an alternative but will it fit the space? The item Flex suggest is a USA option and not international.
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Hi Rob

Going to expect we'll be given a list of known compatible battery packs to source locally. 

Given the logistics of shipping/storing batteries that sort of approach would seem to make sense.

I've in mind to built a rechargeable high-capacity powerpack myself, perhaps around a small gel-cell like a Hawker Odyssey.  I can see using it for a contest weekend.

What would be useful for forward planning is some knowledge of the compartment size and connector expectations for a battery that will tuck in there.

73

Steve

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Rob G6EIH

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I agree Steve, compartment size dim's would be a big help, I travel a lot and want to be able to use Maestro when away from home.

Hopefully FRS will post some more info soon.

73
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KY6LA - Howard, Elmer

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Just checked the Amazon UK site.. and at first glance I did not see a battery that would work

In addition to dimensions that fit, you need to have a 2.5A 5V output port on the battery and it must be a self starting battery...

I am sure that Flex will publish more detailed specs when they get closer to release. 

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David Decoons wo2x, Elmer

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The maximum dimensions for the battery pack are 6" x 3" x 0.75"

As Howard stated, if the battery pack is not self starting, then you will need to hit a button on the pack to get it to start supplying voltage to the Maestro.

+1 for the Mogix listed previously.


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Rob G6EIH

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Thanks David
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David G4NRT / Z21NRT

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I have decided to preempt my Maestro arriving by ordering two of the Mogix batteries from Amazon in the US.  

They are being shipped to my Bundle Box location in Louisville, KY who will ship them to me and take care of import duty and VAT etc.  

It is probably an expensive solution but at least I am assured of having the 'right' batteries for use in my Maestro - whenever it appears!

I shall probably use the same method to shop for other items to support my Maestro if the UK emporia do not stock them.

David G4NRT
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May I respectfully suggest our fellow FleXers in UK / Australia (or anywhere outside USA) meander on up/down to the local "computer store" and look for a "USB Portable Power Bank". There should be ones available off the shelf that match the requirements already posted on this thread.

As to shipping goes, my experience with a shipping agent was there is a distinction between the battery cells sent separately versus being in the device they are intended to be used in.  For the Maestro power pack, the lithium cells (aka. battery) are in the device they are intended to be used in (the power bank). That is my interpretation of these rules:

http://phmsa.dot.gov/safetravel/batteries

http://www.faa.gov/about/initiatives/hazmat_safety/

It appears the Airliner Carry-On rules are a bit more relaxe  versus checked baggage.  If a power bank is to be purchased and transported on an airline one should carefully review the airliner's rules. Bring a paper copy while traveling as the agent may not understand the exact verbiage.
 
The energy capacity of the batteries have a maximum limit before it becomes forbidden. The Apple iPro has a 38.5 WH lithium battery but it seems people carry these on board and they are shipped routinely. Converting 38.5 Watt-Hour @ 3.2V is 12030 MaH. If your USB Power Bank is less then this figure one should have a good argument they did not exceed the maximum permitted battery capacity.

I have a Tenergy 51063 (8000 mA-H) 
http://www.all-battery.com/Tenergy8000mAhSlimDualPortPowerBank-51062.aspx

Hopefully it will work.  Being enclosed in an Aluminium/Aluminum shell  adds protection.

k3Tim
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I just went on Amazon.co.uk and found two items which list the dimensions smaller than the maximum. US dimensions are 6" x 3" x 0.75" max. That equates to 15.24 cm x 7.62 cm x 1.905 cm.

Here's a link to the two I found.  I am sure there are more that will work. I have not tested these.

NOTE - Looks like the Easy ACC wound need to be oriented with the LEDs facing down so you couldn't pop the battery door open to see remaining charge.

The GamerGrade might be tight since the micro USB is in the center instead of on the end.

Dave wo2x

http://www.amazon.co.uk/GamerGrade%C2%AE-BlackVenom-11000mAh-Portable-External/dp/B015LYGU9E/ref=sr_1_17?ie=UTF8&qid=1460217499&sr=8-17-spons&keywords=battery+bank+12000&psc=1

http://www.amazon.co.uk/EasyAcc-10000mAh-Brilliant-Smartphone-Bluetooth/dp/B00H9BEC8E/ref=sr_1_2?srs=9244322031&ie=UTF8&qid=1460218551&sr=8-2&keywords=easyacc+10000

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KY6LA - Howard, Elmer

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Not sure either supports 2.5A
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Winston VK7WH

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Thanks for your information Tim, particularly regarding air carrier rules and battery capacity comparisons. Much appreciated.
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Gerald - K5SDR, Employee

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Klaus Lohmann in our EU office is evaluating batteries that are available in Europe.  We will report after he completes his testing of ones he has purchased there.
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This information was posted by Steve Hicks to the Alpha group.  I used a Mogix battery this weekend for just over 4 hours before it ran out of gas.

http://www.amazon.com/Mogix-Accessories-10400mAh-External-Battery/dp/B00MFVNLXK

- Max battery dimensions are 3.00" x 6.00" x 0.75"

- Needs a minimum of two connections:

   - one USB-Micro-B-Female for charging the battery

   - one USB-A-Female for power draw

- Minimum current supply of 2.5A at 5V output (3 - 3.5A is better and packs that disconnect at the lower current could be an issue -- we have not had this occur and all have supplied the current we needed regardless of markings)

- Auto-start on load preferred.  90% of the packs we tested had this feature that initiates current supply from the USB A connector on introduction of a load.  With this feature, you will be able to "jerk the power adapter and go" and the Maestro will automatically switch to battery power.  Without it, you will have to depress a button on the battery to start current flow

- Capacity: most packs are rated in milliamp-hours (mAh).  BUT, while the pack supplies 5V, many will quote the mAh power rating in the 3.7V domain which is the typical voltage of the internal Li-ion battery back.  In this case, you must generally multiply by 0.67 to get a realistic number.  The Maestro draws approximately 1.5A at 5V after it has been fully charged.  Many packs do not meet their stated power capacities also, so you'll just have to try some and see what works best for you.  We have not done extensive capacity testing on any batteries at this point.  

- Start button: this is optional should there be any issues with auto-start on the pack.  The placement is important, though and you would prefer that the start button be on the flat side of the battery and not the edges since it will be easier to depress without removing the battery.
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Great reply Gerald and many thanks for all the battery detail.

From one CEO to another good to see you guys supporting us over the pond. 5*
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I would appreciate comments about other suitable batteries. Most of batteries listed on ebay Australia have maximum current of 2.1 A and often exceed physical size quoted by Gerald.
Also, what Whr minimum value is required?

Tom, SP7WT
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I used to work for a company who supplied 8 & 12 KWh (at 78v) batteries for an electric car that was being built locally in France. The battery packs were made in China and were LiFePO
4. Sample packs were sometimes needed quickly and the airlines would not carry them unless they had less that, I think, 10% charge. They also had to be packed in suitable wooden boxes. Even shipping by sea they could not have more than 30% charge.

I am pretty sure that smaller batteries may be OK but it would not surprise me to find that many international carriers will not transport them in an aircraft if they know what they are.

Tim
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RJ-45 Mic Adapter Cable

Microphone cable with RJ-45 connector. Used to replace foster cable that shipped on hand-mic supplied with the FLEX-6X00 transceivers.

What does it look like? How long is it?

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I'm guessing its that lil guy
Your Price:
  $23.99   ???

No,  they sell a new replacement cable for the hand mic which has RJ-45 on both ends

Hmm... I don't think either of them is going to work directly with my current Heil HMM handheld. Will have to use several adapters in a chain to get there...
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You need the AD-1 YM adapter from Heil. That is 1/8 + 1/4 to RJ-45 Yaesu wiring.

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Steve (N9SKM)

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I would prefer to purchase the AD-1 YM instead of hooking the heil adapter to another adapter.
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Dave - W6OVP

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Yep. Looks like the way to go.
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Tim - W4TME, Customer Experience Manager

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It is a coiled cable.  Same length as the 8-pin Foster cable.
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David Decoons wo2x, Elmer

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Same length sa original mic cable. You can remove original cable from base of mic. See pictures


Dave wo2x


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Dave - W6OVP

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Do you have a link to this replacement cable?
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David Decoons wo2x, Elmer

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http://cart.flexradio.com/RJ45-Cable-For-FHM-1-Microphone_p_969.html

No picture but that is the cable. Note, it states Maestro in the compatibility

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Dave - W6OVP

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Thanks Dave!
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This is what the battery supply company say.

"Dear Rob,

Thank you so much for your interest but we are not selling in the UK...yet:)

Soon we will be but for now you can purchase our products in the US.

Thank you again and hope you're having a wonderful day!

Angela, Sales Consultant
imogix (.com)

--- Original message ---

Where can we purchase this battery from in the UK ? "
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Tim - W4TME, Customer Experience Manager

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We are actively working on identifying and qualifying a battery that can be purchased in the EU and elsewhere outside of the US. 
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Hopefully that includes Australia
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Tim - W4TME, Customer Experience Manager

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That is the plan
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Thanks a lot, Tim