It's a new world out there ...

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I invited a new friend to coffee this morning. He's been a ham since the 60's, and much like me, has a shack filled with most everything Collins and Drake ever manufactured. Good olde boat anchors, lots of tubes, and great fun on AM to this day. We finished our java and headed for the shack and he asked 'So, what do we have here?'. I proudly replied 'My new Flex 6500 displaying my favorite bands'. I could see Steve wasn't tuning in. 'Oh .. I just don't get it. That's the CW portions of each band?'.

'No .. that is the entire spectrum of 80-meters, 40-meters, 20-meters, and 15-meters. And later it will be chock-full of signals'.

'Say what?'

'The entire band spectrum .. and if you want another cup of coffee, we can bring out my Surface Pro 4 and tune the bands next to the wood stove!'

Steve: 'Do they take VISA?'

Welcome to the new world Steve ...

73's

W7NGA  dan
San Juan Island, Wa.
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Barry N1EU

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Dan what antenna is connected to your 6500 to deliver decent signals on all those bands?

(and I assume congratulations are in order for getting the 6500 back on the air!)

73, Barry N1EU
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Tim - W4TME, Customer Experience Manager

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Most any low Q antenna will work well on wideband RX.  My 40m delta loop hears really well all up and down the band.  Hamsticks?  Not so much. I'd love to have a log periodic, but my HOA would birth a small bovine animal if I put one up.
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Ken - NM9P

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Yeah.  a LP is fun with a 6500!  
But at least you get to play with one at work.  some consolation...
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AE0MW

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I use a 5 band HexBeam. It's not the best antenna in the world but it sure makes the panadapter jump in all the right places.
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Walt - KZ1F

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Has anyone with an LP tuned in 11m? Is there even still a CB? I vaguely remember them changing the name to family radio. Are the on 11m still or is that what I pick up in the cw portion of 10m? Yes, I am aware I could look it up...don't care to. This is a what do you know conversational question.

Will a Flex transmit on 11m? Probably not huh?
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Richard McClelland, AA5S

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I listened on the 11m band some months ago.  It is still filled with vulgar barbarians who have nothing but insults to say to each other.  So, yes, it is still there.
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Richard McClelland, AA5S

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I didn't notice your question about transmitting on 11m.  I presume you're talking about a 6xxx series radio. I don't know the answer to that.
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Walt - KZ1F

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That's OK Richard. I was only partly serious. It actually did not occur to me until earlier today that my LP should be able to transmit on 11m NP. Now I feel compelled to, you know, go listen. I do hear AM on the phone portion of 10M though...very disturbing.
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Richard McClelland, AA5S

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I think a barefoot 6700 on 11m probably couldn't be heard above the KWs running there anyway :-)
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Ken - NM9P

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The only problem I have with my T-11 LP is that sometimes the SW Broadcasting stations outside of the 20, 17 & 15 Meter ham bands are so strong that it hashes up my WNB and I need to cut it back and lose some effectiveness!  But I sure can listen to the SW Broadcast stations if I want to.

 And 11 Meters, too!  I hooked my regular 5 watt CB up to it for an hour one day to test it with a friend who didn't have a ham ticket.  On channel 14 it was very effective.  

More recently I used it to track down the source of some splatter on 10 meters and found someone transmitting on Channel 19 who was splattering all the way up to 28.350.
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Richard McClelland, AA5S

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I was pondering putting one of these (2 el 30m yagi) on the roof of my house:  http://www.optibeam.net/index.php?article_id=89&clang=1  I wonder how my receiver would hold out if I pointed NE, directly toward the WWV antenna farm located eight miles away?  I imagine that I could pull them out of the noise floor.
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Ken - NM9P

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Richard, it is amazing what low power can do with a good antenna.  Two examples:
1) I had a 20 minute contact from Indiana with a ZL on 20 meters one night.  I  was strong, so I turned my power down to 5 watts.  I was still pretty strong, so I turned the control down to '1' for one Watt.  I was still 55.

2) During a local round table with my club on 10 meters, I connected my antenna to the transverter output and was still 55 to stations two miles away.  I was running only 30 milliwatts out to the antenna!  Some of them could still hear me at 5 milliwatts!

Ken - NM9P
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Richard McClelland, AA5S

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I recall when I was a novice with a trap dipole up 35 feet, there was a local ham with a 5 el 20 m yagi at 90' working the world when the band was completely dead to me.  When he finished his QSOs, I called him on CW but he couldn't hear me so I rang him on the phone and told him to turn his beam in my direction.  We had a nice QSO after that.  That experience told me the value of a decent antenna.
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The definition of a "good antenna" to a pessimist:- a) one I cannot afford, b)one that I do not have the space to erect, c) one that the XYL will HATE and d) one I cannot get planning permission to erect. Sigh!
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KY6LA - Howard, Elmer

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Definition of a "Good Antenna" to an Optometrist

a) One I cannot afford but I bought anyways
b) One that I donot have space for but I put it up anyways
c) The XYL will hate it so I sent her on vacation while it is being put up
d) Fortunately we have PRB-1 so the Planning Board must Reasonably Accommodate my Needs  - that's what lawyers are for....
e) if the Neighbors don't hate it then you do not have enough antennas or it is too small...
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Dave -- W7IWW

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You're my kind of guy, Howard. The glass is half full, not empty. When I was in college at U of CO, I was told twice I could not put up a dipole on the dorm. Kept asking up the line, and three times the charm! Up went the antenna (Facilities dept actually installed it, no charge) and kept me on the air with regular schedules with my Dad and brother. Same senerio played out when stationed in Germany living in government housing.
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Dan -- KC4GO

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I don't know what that W7NGA  dan uses but I use one of the Comet 250B vertical all band antennas. 
Not only works for ham bands but also SWL... 

http://download.qrz.ru/pub/hamradio/antenna/comet/Comet-CHA250B-Review.pdf

http://www.cometantenna.com/amateur-radio/base-antennas/multi-band-hfvhfuhf-2/


Dan --- KC4GO
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I have one....I call it my "dummy load on a stick" but it is a good receive antenna
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Dan -- KC4GO

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I also us it for WSPR (5 watts tx) band hopping  into the 250B (Dummy load) reaches  most of the world. With the ATU no place it doesn't match. I have that and a 65 ft long wire with an SGC-230 tuner and an MFJ Magnetic Loop 7-21 Mhz. Sometime is TX on the wire and RX on the vertical. And we are most likely off topic. :) 

Dan --- KC4GO
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Dave -- W7IWW

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I use a Hustler 5 band vertical to monitor receive band slices (non-WARC bands) via ANT 2 (6700) while using SteppIR 3ele on Slice A via ANT 1 on active band (40-6m). Seems to work nicely.
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I use the Pixel RF-Pro 1B Broadband Magnetic Loop (RX Ant) for all bands 180-10m.  The best RX antenna a Flex could have!
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I agree!
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Barry N1EU

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Are there any plans out there for a homebrew active vertical antenna, similar to the Clifton Labs Z1501D?  I understand Clifton Labs products are currently not available. 
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I believe Clifton Labs were the original designers of the Pixel Pro-1B that was recently sold to DX Engineering.

Clifton Labs do a lot of hardware and software development for companies that then produce and market them.
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Barry,  I have a prototype that Lee K7TJR of HI-Z antennas came up with a few years ago  that works like the  Clifton Labs version except it had a relay to hook to the key line to cut off the preamp when transmitting.  I'm not sure if he ever developed this or not.  It was intended for use by QS1R and other Skimmer type SDR users for their RX Skimmer server antenna.
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I'd love to stretch my SSDR onto all three of my connected monitors, but SSDR 1.5 seems to max out at a width of 4096 bits wide.

I hope that FRS increases SSDR's maximum width on one of these updates, just for the "show off" factor alone...
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Excellent Dan,
What size/make/model are the monitors?
What video card are you using in the PC?

73
Chuck
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Chuck, I bought a Dell i7 PC dedicated to Flex and my engineering and mathematics studies. I say that because I have had no issues at all with Windows 10. I use the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 745 video card driving two Dell U2414H 24" monitors that were reasonably priced at Amazon. It all works marvelously well ... if I knew then how well the system worked and how much fun the panadapters are I would now seriously look at the 27" monitors.

W7NGA  dan
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Chuck

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Thanks for the info Dan.
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Dan -- KC4GO

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11 meters and the rest of the HF band if you use xvtr as your transmitter...