Interesting Intruder on 15 Meters

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I have an interesting intruder on the low end of the 15 meter phone band.
Here are two screen shots.  One is with Weighted averaging ON the other is with weighted averaging OFF.  Certainly this is a very rapidly pulsing source!
My guess is that it is Over the Horizon Radar of some sort, but it is wiping out a full 20 KHz of 15 meter phone.
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We get to see all these weird signals which the "knobers" miss. 
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Walt - KZ1F

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It seems to me it is just worse now than 30 or so years ago.  How does one generate a 3 MHz wide signal? Was there intelligence there?

I wasn't singling anyone out. I was referring to the culture. It was just yesterday Gerry made that stmt....'nailed it'.  If I didn't get the 6500, I would have gotten a fully loaded K3...but I DID get the 6500. I chose the 6500 as I had no perceived use for the additional features of the 6700. As a quick aside, I would place money on the table that in the next 18 months there will be a 7000 series. Which means there will be a lot of used 6700's on the market. I still can't have multiple multi band antennas, and instant tune of a good LP trumps the others. So still no 6700 for me. That decision was not a constraint, it was a choice. Virtually the only thing I don't like about the 6000 is the UI. I am remedying that.

My perception is we all, in part, are responsible for the tenor of this board. I perceive there are a handful of, for lack of a better word right now, 'leaders' here, you (Ken), Howard, Stu, perhaps some others. In the spirit of what Gerry was saying, I think it would be really nice if the 'leaders' on this board would help better define the bounds. Not policing, per se, just leadership. And, frankly, I am not seeing that. Since I've been quoting Gerry, he did reference K3 owners engaged in the same "my dad can beat up your dad' rhetoric. I've never seen that though, haven't gone looking for it either.

I think the praise, aka, twiddling, section of this board was a huge mistake. I didn't set it up though.  The primary reason I started getting pissed a day or two back is I had several problems I entered. Yes, I realized FRS was likely less staffed a day before to a day after Dayton but I also suspect they didn't close the office. But due to the complete BS rhetoric, my problems got pushed so far back page wise, even, I wouldn't expect anyone in support to see them which, apparently, they didn't. That triggered the resident troll to start haunting me for bringing them back to the front. 

I don't come here to pick fights. I also don't come here to be at a CJ or biker bar. FRS as made it clear this is the only vehicle available to seek assistance, be in installing, using, or programming. That is unfortunate, given the state of this board. So the meta-message is, can we please just clean this up.
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Walt may I make a suggestion? Just start filtering comments on the board. I think I am going to try doing that myself and see how it goes, Walt you question the mentality of some here and you don't like what is said at times, but instead of long talks about it, just pick and choose what you want to comment on. If it rubs you the wrong way, just let it slide, go on with what you were doing. If someone is being rude, causing trouble, not replying to them shuts them up, as soon as we reply then they have our attention, just what they want.

I know many times I have people calling me out on almost anything I say, they don't miss a beat, if what I say bothers some people they jump on me very fast. I find that more disturbing to be frank. There are a few just waiting to find fault with what ever I say. That's the time to filter.

I mentioned the other day how it has been for me operating during a contest and having a conversation and problems I have, boy did I ruffle some feathers there. I was just commenting how it is for me.

So we can make choices, when, were, and how we reply. I'm going to try this for myself,
Lets just go out and play!
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Bill -VA3WTB

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Ken, it is from outer space,oooooh
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The "tenor" of this board is hams helping hams. We are not all highly qualified, at least I am not, yet if one of my questions does not receive the response I desire I do not fell the need to be pushy about it. Flex has allowed the users many options for expression and they drop in from time to time. Flex does not show a strong desire to "control", thus they reveal themselves as self confident. Those that must "control" generally have feelings of inadequacy Generally I receive more help than I can handle.
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Steve N4LQ

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Amen
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km9r.mike

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I have seen youtube videos from the hack rf folks where they submit either screen shots or files of  emitters and a web based database will define the transmission. Kinda slick but like most things on the interwebby there is no certification required for the trustworthiness of the database.

I too was recently playing with display settings and was wondering while doing so if settings that require more compute power can result in a loss of receive data no matter how small. Low data rate transmission probably not a concern but high data rate precise transmissions (ie psk 500, 1000 for lack of a better example) may be a concern. Just do not know enough about it yet but learning.

WRT the other stuff, I like the positives that all my radios offer. My flex 6300 however is w/ doubt hands down goto rig for all areas of operating. It is not chest thumping just reality.

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Yeah they have been on 40 meters as well.