I cannot access 2 meter repeaters. community explains how to set tone but the explanation doesn't math the user interface

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community talks about setting the slice with tone, but he screen shots dont match what i have,
how do you set tone fore repeaters?
i have downloaded and installed the latest smartsdr..
thanks
Jim
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I have a Flex 6500 so I am using Transverters to get onto 4m, 2m and 70cm. I also have the DV dongle.

I can get into any repeaters on 2m and 70cm. I use the memories to programme in the frequency, offset and tones etc. Likewise for D-Star. No issues whatever.

Hoping this helps!

David G4NRT
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Using the 2-meter RX Panel
1. turn on CTCSS
2. Set tone
3. set offset
4. set offset to plus or minus for the frequency
5. set squelch (SQL)

This can also all and more be done from settings/memory/add.

Be sure antennas are set properly.

Good luck.
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my panel looks different than yours. do you have the latest software?
also i have installed the down east microwave transverter, how much should the drive be?
i've put it at 100db, but the smart sdr power meter shows no output when i transmit? shouldn't it?


thanks
Jim
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Yes, 1.8.  It has looked this way for several iterations of the software.  Turn on CTCSS and your version should work.  May not have squelch though.
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I think I put about 63 into mine 2M75 LDPA if I need to drive it full scale, but usually run less.  If that's what you are using it's not a transverter, it's just a low drive power amplifier.  Just watch the RF power LED's on it and adjust the flex appropriately.
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Jim, Dave , you're looking at two different things...  Jim you have the Slice panel
Dave you have the RX panel on the side of SSDR that shows the RX infor for the active slice..  In the Slice panel, SQL is grouped with the VOL under the speaker icon.

AL, K0VM
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Of course.  Don't know what I was thinking.  Bed time.
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Make sure mode is FM
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definitely using 2m. still no power showing in the sdr power indicators. what;s up with that?
when I transmit the panadapter is showing a large signal/
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Power meter looks at the PA output; the transverter output is not metered, and is WAY less power.

Are you sure you're using the XVTR port? Probably shouldn't see a signal in the panadapter when you transmit
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Thanks very much. Could you recommend a power meter for the vhf and uhf antennas then?
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Pretty much any VHF meter is fine. I use an Elecraft W2 with two sensors, one for HF and one for VHF. Nice to have power meter on computer desktop, especially when remote.
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If tx in waterfall is enabled, I can see a very small very brief signal in the waterfall at the offset freq.
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James,

Several things in your note may be confusing and will result in mixed comments

  1. What 6000 series are you using?  Since you mentioned the Transverter port I will assume a 6700 as it is the only 6000 that has 2M output on the transverter port.
  2. You mentioned a DEMI TRANSVERTER.  This device does not use a 2M drive, normally a 10M input.
  3. e.g. I have a DEMI 2M-75 LDPA for my 6700.  It is a Low Drive Power Amplifier that is driven by +5 DBM (100%) on the 6700 transverter port to full power.  Where are you getting 100dbm?

Stan

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Jim, are you seeing the power LEDs on the DEMI LDPA change as you move the power slider?  They should.  You will never see any power indicated on the radio.  If they are indicating power, then both the radio and LDPA are working fine together.  If not, check your connections.  All of this assumes you are using a DEMI LDPA and not a DEMI Transverter.  If it's a transverter you must be on the proper HF band, not 2-meters.  Transverters must also be set up in the radio profile.

If you are seeing LDPA power LEDs react,  then there is something incorrect in your repeater setup.  Note that the LDPA will still show about half-scale power even if no antenna is connected.  That fooled me once.  It would help us if you posted screen captures of your current repeater configuration and your transverter profile setup if that is what you are using.  In the repeater setup you did post, you had selected a tone but had it turned off.  Check that the "off" now says CTCSS, available in the drop-down list for that setting.

Dave
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Thanks very much i have rhe redesigned ldpas from demi and they have no leds.
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Here is what you slice receiver should look like with CTCSS (tone) enabled.
Dave
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My slice receiver noe looks ok. I checked my handi talkie and when transmitting on the flex i did hear myself. Still no luck on repeaters though. Thanks
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That is odd because I am able to work a local repeater with the 6700 XVRT port and no amp  (Still waiting for the DEMI amp), with just the 10mW. The only thing I have not been able to use is RX CTCSS, mine only has TX CTCSS.
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Jim, let us know what Flex and DEMI you're using, and which ports are hooked up. Might shed some light.
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Jim, we can help you better if you provide more information.
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Thanks George ive ordered a power meter from dc engineering. After i have it installed ill provide more information. What things should i give you information about?
Jim
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If you switch to RXA for receive, can you hear on 2m? Your wiring diagram indicates you're using split RX/TX ports, so using XVTR (as displayed in your screen shot) for both will not work. What does your transverter setup (in rig setup) look like? LO frequency, error, power in dBm? Are relays TX1 and 2 checked (enabled) in rig setup?
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Thanks so much. Ill check these thins out and let you know.jim
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Ps i have comfigured 2 transverters in radio setup one for 2m and one for 70cm. These showmup with the correct frequencues in the slice display.
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Jim, these are transverters. You need to operate in the 10m band, not 2m.
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When properly configured, transverters will be shown with the actual frequency in SSDR. It's pretty slick.
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Yep this is working.
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Dave 10m is incorrect i contacted demi and they confirm 28mhz.
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10m band is 28MHz
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Oh, thanks, duh. Jim
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is there any way to show the TX frequency.. like on any other radio in existence ??
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Flex is transmitting around 28MHz, not in the 2-meter band.  You won't see it in 2m.

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Perhaps the signal im seeing when i release the mic is the repeater but thats odd because its at the input freq of the repeater.
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Yes, you are seeing the last part of your 145MHz transmit signal as the flex receiver comes back online.
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If you hit the REV button, it will put your receiver on the transmit frequency and change the display to the transmitted frequency. 

This is PROVIDED that you have your transverter configuration done correctly, including the calibration offset.  (if you are using a transverter.)

Ken - NM9P
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Working with Dudley we discovered that the diagram sent to me by flex was in error. More to come. Jim
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Tx frequency doesnt happen until i release the mic button. I expanded the pan adapter to include the input frequency of the repeater and noticed there was no transmitted signal until i released the mic. Perhaps my drive signalmis 't high enough? Ill ask DEMI. Jim
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James, again you should not see your transmitted signal when using a transverter. This is normal. Again, please try using RXA for the receive side and XVTR for transmit and let us know. I have a strong feeling you are keying repeaters just fine and not hearing because you're listening on the wrong port. Also - can you confirm that you're using the right offset? The screen shot you provided earlier has you on 146.060 with a +600 offset. In most circumstances, repeaters below 147 MHz use a -600 offset, and the output (your receive) is above 146.6.
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FWIW ... I am using Kuhne (DB6NT) Transverters on 2m and 70cm and a Spectrum Communications one on 4m. 

They are all connected via a Kuhne Six-to-One Transverter switch to my FlexRadio 6500.  They are all configured for two wires and connect to RXA and XVTR. They all use a 28MHz IF. 

I set up the appropriate XVTRs in radio setup and everything works as it should.  I do not see the transmitted frequency change if I am working a repeater, when I key the Flex but if I adjust my Panafall then I can see my transmitted signal.  

I can access FM and D-Star repeaters (with the dongle for the latter) with no issues and hear the 4m beacon at the correct frequency.

It was really, really simple to set up and I am surprised that the original poster is having so many issues.

Admitedly the Kuhne Transverters indicate power output on their own displays which helps.  Most users here would say that they are the best on the market (and with a price to match!!)

David G4NRT
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I so agree. Thanks for the comments. About seeing the transmitted signal, I stand corrected. - I use a single port, so the RX is off during transmit (panadapter would be looking at 28 MHz instead of 144). For James, and anyone with issues, it is really important to answer the questions posed by those trying to help, and to provide complete configuration information. Sometimes, even an extra class operator can get in too deep. That's why we have a Community.