So all of V1. Are included. This has been for 3 years now
Version 2.0 including all upgrades with version 2 will cost $200 one time fee.
I think it's important to understand that it takes time and concerted efforts and countless hours to develop software at this level. Those involved deserve to earn a living also. We have had free upgrades for a few years now and I think they more than deserve some remuneration for their efforts.
Flex radio told me a year ago when I purchased my 6700 that when version 2.0 became available there would be an upgrade charge to that version. They also indicated it would be about $200.00 and it included all update and fixes under V2.xxx... When V3.00 was released there would be another fee to upgrade. I do not see how any owner of 6000 series radios could possible expect Flex to continue to pay employees to program new features at no forever. Once the sale of the radio has been made they have no addition income from the radio owner. Heck, most of the other manufacture just make their radios obsolete and you have to buy a new model for a lot more the $200.00.. Fixes to an existing version are another story and Flex has continued supply fixes and features to the existing version at no charge. No other software provider including Microsoft, Cisco, Dell, Sonicwall, Symantec and almost all others charge for new versions of their software. Those like Malwarebytes, Cisco, Symantec and most other require an annual fee to remain licensed and receive their updates. Flex has had version 1.xxx out for years and never an annual fee for upgrades.
I have no issues with paying for this upgrade along with Flex support.
I am anxiously waiting for V2.xxx
Just my thoughts,
David S. Livingston
Simply Connected, Ltd
7499 Parklane Road, Suite 148
Columbia, SC 29223
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Expecting free software upgrades for ever is simply not reasonable any more than expecting Yaesu/Icom/Kenwood/Elecraft to provide new hardware for free would be reasonable. With a SOFTWARE defined radio, the software is the product. I will gladly pay for it. If you are not willing to do so then you can stay on version 1.xxx
73, John, G3WGV
@Dennis Little - You do not need to upgrade to keep your radio and Maestro operational. FRS has been very clear how their upgrades will eventually work, even offering us prepaid upgrades when we bought our radios. Pretty clear (unless perhaps you bought yours used or from a 3rd party, which then means it wasn't FRS promising you endless free software.) Feel free to touch base if you really think your rig will be obsolete without paid-for updates.
@Brian Hemmis - FRS only this week said their upgrade plan is rolling forward as charted. If a 7610 is hot stuff for you over greatly enhancing your 6000 so be it, but I know I am looking at it as very inexpensive in the big scope of things. As yes, you are guessing when you put forth your ideas why FRS does something forward. BTW they've said that the programs have created upgrade paths that economically work for all parties that have lead to additional overall sales. Basically filling the role of a dealer network since they sell direct in the USA.
@All - I too would be happy with whatever funding mechanism FRS reasonably needs to keep rolling out more capabilities. Funny how when our Barracuda's annual anti-malware license comes due it is no problem, or when our Sage Office needs its annual fee top up, or other software needs it fees paid for the year we find it, but some hams go cheapskate when some device they enjoy has an associated fee.
The ICOM 7610 looks like a nice radio but in 4 or 5 years what will it cost you to upgrade to their next model? Consider how much it's going to cost ICOM IC-7600 owners to upgrade to the 7610. Considerably more than $200.
On one side are cheap hams and financially challenged hams who want everything to be FREE FOREVER
On the other side there are realisist who understand that the SOFTWARE IS THE RADIO and it COSTS ALOT OF MONEY TO WRITE NEW SIFTWARE.
I can somewhat sympathize with financially challenged hams not being able to afford the $200 upgrade fee. But heck a few less cases of beer every couple of years and even financially challenged hams likely could afford it.
OTOH. no one says you need to upgrade. Your radio will always work. V2.0 is for remote operations. If your financially challenged you probably don't need to do remote anyways.
Finally Fles has published its upgrade policy for years now...No Excuse. It's on the web.
This issues keeps being raised because new users are continually joining the group and haven't had the benefit of the past four years of discussion about these and other issues. I think a little grace is required here. (As a pastor, If I rolled my eyes and puked-forth every time someone new walked into the church and didn't understand everything we did, or had been misinformed by a friend down the street, I would quickly have a dead church and be out of a job.)
I think that sometimes we who are long-time members of the Community can forget how far we have progressed on the learning curve. Some of the questions may be repetitive and even tedious, but only to those of us who have slogged through the long-term development of the "Flex-Ecosystem." For new users, these are legitimate questions.
What is required is a brief, courteous answer. What is not needed is for the whole group to argue the issue all over again, or to denigrate a new user for asking the answer to a question that we watched evolve over the past three or four years. Given a little grace, they will learn. Given "un-grace" they will gravitate to another product....
Ken - NM9P
Money going into the pot is what fuels new innovation. Having been a Flex customer since the 3000 came along, I have seen a ton of innovation come out of Flex even before they started the current upgrade policy.
For anyone selling their Flex, be sure and tell the buyer about the version upgrade policy. I am sure they will be glad to get a brand new radio now and then for free, and occasionally pay a small amount for a really comprehensive upgrade.
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