Flex 6800/6800M

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Given FRS' ability to rapidly design and produce new hardware product, I have to believe that by next year's Visalia or Dayton Hamvention, we'll start hearing more about a successor to the 6700. So, if my prediction is anywhere near correct, it may be helpful to FRS and its customers to have some idea as to what we want in a new flagship transceiver. 

I also think it's more productive for the user-base to present these ideas than for FRS to reach out with questions which would undoubtedly create even more insanity among the current user-base than what we've recently witnessed in the current 6400/6600 discussions. 

That said, here's what I would like to see in a 6800/6800M transceiver:

1) Tracking preselector.  Build upon the new contest-grade 7th-order BPF used in the 6600 and make it even more versatile by incorporating an automatically tracking preselector that mimics the excellent HEROS Cat design.  Presently, I use the HEROS unit with DDUtil and an ANAN 200D (but yes, I do own a 6700).  The HEROS unit tracks frequency through DDUtil and sets up an optimized BPF for every frequency of operation as tuning frequency changes.  Secondly, the HEROS creates notch filters on opposite HF bands for even more alternate band rejection. Of course, rather than use DDUtil, SSDR would manage all the tracking -- and allow the user to have complete control over BPF and notching functions.  It's the ultimate in front-end filtering.

2) Include a dedicated adaptive pre-distortion RF sample input. 

3) Allow for complete PA stage bypass.  The future with external amplification is with high-gain LDMOS (and equivalent) technology.  The newest LDMOS amps allow for 1-2 watts input to develop 1.5KW+ output power. When using these amps, a 100W PA is wholly redundant and extraneous to the RF amplification process.  While we here in the U.S. eagerly await a change to the FCC's 15 dB rule, many countries in the rest of the world do not have this egregious limitation. 

4) We need manufacturers to take a stand with the APP power connector.  I am not going to enter into a debate about the use of these devices on transceivers, but I would be surprised if any military/DoD operation would accept this connector in their specifications.  To the ARES/EMCOM crowd, pigtail adapters work fine.  I would like to see a return to the AMP Mate-'n-Lock or Molex style connector.  In the alternative, the APP should be recessed onto the PC board.  The chassis would have an integrated rectangular channel to eliminate all up/down and lateral movement.  Finally, a plastic or steel spring would be used to flip up/down on the back of the APP as a retention device.  This prevents accidental pulls. There's nothing that prevents using both the APP and Mate-'n-Lock together, in parallel on the rear panel.  Then, pick the connector of your choice.

5) Keep the power, mic, CW key and phone connectors on the front panel.  I realize the trend is to minimize manufacturing cost by placing as much as possible in a "no-wires" design on a PC board.  For those paying-up for a flagship transceiver, I think it's safe to say most owner's would pay extra to keep this convenience.

6) For the 6800 (non M version) please keep the small form factor (SFF) of the present 6700.  To keep manufacturing costs low in the new 6400/6600 series, FRS likely decided to keep a one box-size frame for all four models.  The extra size was needed to accommodate a Maestro-like panel, but that extra vertical space isn't needed in non-M versions.  Have a look at most ham shacks today, and we've got dozens of devices unlike the days when we may have only had a few pieces of gear. In my case, three 22-inch monitors alone consume a lot of upper desk space.  Rack mounting?  Sure, but I've already maxed out a lot of rack space.  Let's try and minimize the "RU" size when possible.

7) Faster boot time.  This probably goes with SSDR progress.  Current boot-time is painfully long and should compete with the likes of the IC-7300, ANAN 100/200 and SunSDR2-Pro -- all of which boot in under 5 seconds;

8) Cleaner switch-mode DC-DC converters and better EMC shielding. I admit, I sometimes obsess over stuff that doesn't affect normal operation.  But it unnerves me to see broad, switch-mode spikes meandering at the -130 dBM and some at -120 dBm level, even when they're spaced far apart with no antenna connected.  Let's try and do a better job with EMC at these low signal levels.  I do know it's hard when were dealing with such minuscule signals levels, but some other manufacturers' hardware does a better job in this area.    

9) Please keep PIN diode T/R switching!  I would hate to see a return to "K logic" as a cost cutting measure.       

Those are my ideas for future improvement in a new flagship transceiver.  What ideas do you have?

Paul, W9AC  




      
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One comment.

#3 we do that now for all radios.  Just select the XVTR port for transmitting.
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Tim, I thought that XVTR power was lower than 2 watts.  No?  I guess I need a re-read of the manual!

Paul, W9AC  
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It is.  But several existing LDPAs are using 10 dBm.  Just a data point in your discussion.
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In the future a LDMOS amp with a simple driver stage should be all that is needed. No need to waste space and power consumption with a 100 watt PA. Beko already has these and homebrewers are building them.
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This is cool. I build LDMOS amps and use a 16dB atten on the front end. What's the power out of the XVTR port?

Rob, n4ga
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Up to +15dBm on HF-6, +7dBm on 2 meters. 
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15 dBm is approximately 30 mW.  That's not enough to drive current LDMOS amps into their fully-rated power capacity, even with no attenuator inserted between the exciter and LDMOS PA input.   Ideally, we would want an adjustment range up to about 2 watts with currently available device gain.

Paul, W9AC 
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Correct. I just didn't know if 15dBm was the max. 
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Hopefully, if FCC approves the removal of the old CB driven reg which currently continues to restrict the maximum Beta of Ham PA's to 15 dB, then Ham TX's can be designed like many high powered commercial and military HF transmitters. They typically use exciters to drive their big PA's, with output powers of their transceivers ranging from 20 to 75 mW.

Companies like RCI and Harris offer HF transceivers with a self contained 100 watt PA, but for customers needing to run 1 kW, and higher, they configure these systems by eliminating the 100 watt PA deck is such models. Such transceivers drive a big PA chain of amps.They stack up whatever number of "blocks" of 1 kW solid state bricks, providing power levels of 1 kW to 25 kW, and even much higher. Any single brick failure is barely noticed (6dB = 1 S-unit).

Using an exciter approach (20 to 75 mW) to drive a big PA will also help to produce a cleaner final signal. This way, the transceiver chassis can also physically shrink, let alone provide room for a small switcher to power the exciter and receiver, plus logic.

BTW, I believe the SPE Italy petition to the FCC late last year to remove the 15 dB restriction was set aside, for now, by FCC, but I think it remains alive for further consideration sometime down the road.

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Right, that's why I said a small driver stage had to be before the amp. 
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I believe SPE amps sold in Italy are configured to "want" only 20 to 60 mW of input drive power, right off the proverbial "shelf!" Let's hope the FCC dumps this antiquated anti CB reg, and pronto, so we Hams can start enjoying the benefits! 
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Not true. 8-12 watts drive for full output. At least mine only needed that much. 
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I believe the SPE Italy petition to the FCC late last year to remove the 15 dB restriction was set aside, for now, by FCC, but I think it remains alive for further consideration sometime down the road.
This was Bob Hardie, who owns the US dealer (Expert Linears America). He requested first that the 15dB rule be eliminated and that he get an exemption in the meantime for his company. Flex opposed the exemption but not rescinding the rule. The FCC agreed and denied the request. The petition to remove the 15dB rule completely for all remains.
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Paul,  #4 I totally agree on that point!!!  Yah I know, no discussion it's just fact...

That practice should have never happened.

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6) They stated part of the form factor change was also to allow modular construction on boards instead of 1 main board for ease of repair.
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I would really like to see VHF/UHF added with full duplex capability.  Since the 6600 is modular design, maybe have the ability to add a separate VHF/UHF board.   VHF/100w and UHF/50w would be great as to not require an outboard amplifier.  I'm trying to reduce the mess of wires and boxes in my shack.
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My wish is for one black box that does HF, VHF, UHF, fully duplex satellite operations, digital modes, multiple transverter ports, 8-slices, performs as an excellent EME base platform, and top-end receiver performance.  I'd stand in line for such a box.
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me too! I have a credit card ready:)
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And brews coffee, or have a beer tap as an option! 8^)


And under a 500 dollars.
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Now that's the way to make useful, constructive suggestions.!
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An additional consideration for Point 4) on Power connectors - Consider the Cliffcon power connectors.  In this class the Hilberling PT-8000A already uses them, and connectors of this grade are so much more robust and resistant to accidental pullout. 

Added item 10) Upgrade to N-Connectors on the radio (or offer N-Connectors as a factory installed option).

73

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I would definitely like to see N connectors as an option. I hate PL259s and use as few of them as possible.  
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Agreed! PL259 is the bane of my radio existence.
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Good suggestions:

I agree on beefing up the power connectors.

I would even agree on N Connectors.  Even at HF, they are more secure and more impedance constant.  Albeit they are more expensive on both the rig and coax end.

Not sure I agree about the form factor... As much as I like the thinner cabinet of the 6500/6700...if the new box is better for the electronics and design engineering, keep it.  Don't sacrifice performance and maintainability for case size preferences.

The same for rear panel mic, headphone, & keyer jacks.  Right-angle adapter cords are relatively inexpensive and can be brought out under the rig.  Let them wear out instead of the expensive ones in the rig itself.

Additional suggestions for a possible 6800/M:

11) In addition to the 2 Meter output, incorporate two, or even more, independent XVTR ports that can be assigned to different SCU's, allowing for easy full-duplex VHF/UHF or satellite operation.

12) build in more than one Mic connector.  I can see switching back and forth between studio and headset mics eventually wearing out a single connector.

13) if possible and not too expensive, I would prefer to see 1/4 inch jacks instead of 1/8 inch (3.5 mm) jacks on the flagship rig.  If the Mic is a true balanced input, a 1/4 inch would be acceptable instead of an XLR-1/4 inch combo.  Even though the Combo XLR is very nice, a 1/4 TRS is just as good and easier to wire.

14) incorporate an additional button or two on the 'M' version that would function as a "select Active Slice" button, and perhaps an additional one as a "Select TX Slice" button that would allow stepping through the up to 8 different slices.  Allow additional pans/slices to be displayed on the HDMI screen.  If the HDMI screen is not active, then the buttons could shift "pages" on the main screen to access additional pairs of pans/slices.   

I might have others later, be these showed up first...

Ken - NM9P
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I'd skip an "M" model, but would like a small display showing health, menus, diagnostics and configuration settings. 

If an "M" model is a must, I would separate it from the main unit with a tether, rather than wled it to the front of the unit.

73

Steve K9ZW

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At least three tvtr outputs please with up to 10w drive on 4m 2m and 70cms
Split tx on hf and vhf i.e. Ability to split hf drive to two antenna sockets 1 and 2 to drive two amps and two antennas in different directions and with separate split audio from ant 1 and 2 with ability within ssdr to split the audio left right etc
Ditto on 6m and above - ability to split power out to two or three antenna sockets with separate rx from the different antennas so simultaneous tx in three different directions and ability to put both ears on all, two or just one rx line
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Clean TX signal-PA with high voltage transistors, Attention to clean signal even without pre-distortion.

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Here's hoping (scratch that Hope is only unfound disappointment) Here's wishing the 6800 comes out soon, I am putting of the upgrade from 6500 to 6600 for this bigger and badder piece of hardwarer.
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Tell us,,what does the 6800 have in it,,tell us more about it...
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well its vaporware now, that is what this thread is about a conceptual 6800
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Please keep two mic inputs and add N-connectors
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Let me be perfectly clear.  This post and the follow-up comments are pure speculations by the posters who have commented.  We have our hands full with the 6400, 6600, Maestro, PowerGenius and SmartSDR v2.x.
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I think that has always been clear Tim. There is also the issue of one or more 1.10 maintenance releases to sort out the existing bugs that Flex are working on. In the meantime (however long that will be) I would have thought it helpful for existing or prospective flex users to express their wish list for the 6700 replacement.

Everyone I think now understands the difficulty of having a public roadmap in these competitive times. The downside of not knowing a likely timescale for a 6700 replacement is that some people , and this includes me, will possibly sit on their wallets and not buy new or used 6700, unless they really need the dual Scu now this minute. I have the option of buying a one year old 6700 at present for £4200, which is some bit lower than the current uk dealer price on a new one of £6800. Having just this week sold my kuhne 4m tvtr and 300w solid state 4/6m pa, it's tempting to jump onto a new or second hand 6700. But the lack of detail on the 6600 , and certainty on uk delivery timescales, plus no visibility on a 6700 replacement that may have even better features for similar price, makes it a hard decision. I am even tempted to pick up an ic7300 to try as an interim option to keep me going on 4m and to see what all the fuss is about them. Probably easier to sell on my 6300 once the flex resale market settles back down and we have more visibility on the 6600 performance and a replacement timescale for the 6700.

Please don't take the above as a criticism of flex strategy. Flex is damned if it does and damned if it doesn't - same as it's main competitors. It is very clear that flex has a lot on its plate at present, and I guess that means a replacement for the 6700 is a long way off. In the meantime, adding value for existing 6300 6500 and 6700 owners with. 2.0 and some maintenance releases will no doubt keep everyone happy and enjoying their flex sdr.

73 steve gw0gei / gw9j
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Understood completely.  And we support this type of discussion by Community members. I find it very informative and entertaining regarding what everyone would like to see in an ultra high-end FLEX-6000 series SDR.

However, in order to ensure a better customer experience across the board regarding the management of expectations it may be necessary from time to time to definitively clarify FlexRadios stance on certain post topics so that false expectations are not set.  

I felt like this post had the possibility of doing that, so I didn't want anyone thinking that another new hardware announcement was possibly forthcoming.
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I appreciate Tim's preemptive clarification.  There are many who will join a thread like this and assume that it is based upon some missed facts or inside information.  

Suggestion:  Perhaps the title of threads like these, which I also find stimulating to read and contribute, could be labeled:

"PURELY SPECULATIVE" .... or

"DREAM LIST: This post is for dreaming and speculation only.  
It does not reflect any official opinion or promised direction by FRS."

Or perhaps Tim will just chime in once in a while to keep us in the real world!  (;-b)  
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Any type of user-initiated clarifier would be appreciated and appropriate.
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I find it hard that anyone you actually read the thread came to the conclusion that this is a real product.
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Never underestimate the power of the human mind to ignore important data because the heart wants to believe something else!  (;-b)

Some people, myself included, make terrible proof-readers because their eyes do not see what is ACTUALLY written, but they see what they ASSUME was intended to be said.  

Sometimes it is an advantage for me, because I can often decode and understand badly misspelled and badly worded posts by interpolating what was meant by the context.  The downside is that I sometimes must go back and edit my own posts or newsletter articles three times because I KNOW what I meant to say and my eyes didn't catch the mistakes the first time I proofread it.  With no conscious effort, they just ASSUME I typed it correctly!  And we all know what ASSUME means!
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Olny srmat poelpe can raed this.
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I have seen those posts on facebook, even some that are upside down & backwards while also using alternate letters all at the same time.  After a few seconds I can read most of them with no problems.  

But what takes me a lot of effort is carefully reading a document while intentionally looking for spelling errors and punctuation mistakes.  It isn't that I don't know any better -- my parents were both school teachers and forced me to excel in school.  It just takes my eyes longer to spot those errors because they are not naturally programmed to see them immediately.  

My wife, on the other hand, can take one glance at a three-page article I have written for the church newsletter and spot 6 typos and 3 misplaced commas in 30 seconds!  

Even though many scientists have debunked the left-brain/right-brain theory as far as anatomical function is concerned, I still find it effective as a metaphor of the different ways people's minds are wired.  I am probably half & half right/left or 65/35 right-brain.  My wife is almost completely left-brained in function.  It makes for some interesting discussions!   (I am also Visual-Kinesthetic oriented and she is primarily Verbal/Auditory -- another interesting learning and communication style difference.)

As far as Ham Radio and SDR are concerned, this may explain why some people readily gravitate to the more visual eco-system of the FlexSDR while others have major difficulty moving away from a front panel full of dials and buttons.

While the Knob vs. no-knob question isn't what really defines the difference between legacy and SDR, it has thus far unfortunately been the most visible face of the argument, until the new Flex models were announced recently.  I think the 6000M models will go a long way towards putting a new face on the argument.  It certainly is a nice new face for the radio!

Ken - NM9P
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Hi, Ken!

Your last 2 paragraphs are "right on the mark," IMHO.

Br,
Larry
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I am surprised that no one has suggested an in-case power supply. Given the amount of room allegedly left empty it seems to me to be a no brainer. Then Flex could use the latest power transistors running at 50 volts. 

Or, given the number of people who run linears, why not a high power version? Imagine a Flex 6800 with the capability of producing a kilowatt all in one box with one power lead.

Not that I could afford one but it makes for a bit of drooling!

Tim
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 Imagine the shipping weight! ;-)
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Imagine the profit! Make it good enough and people won't care about the shipping rate or the price.
Tim
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Tim, What about a mobile version? Br, Larry WA7LZO
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Now you want to put wheels on the 6800? :-D
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Oh, no. I was thinking of the very lowest end,, like 6100 single slice only, with a smaller control head than the Maestro, like a scaled back mini Maestro..

Mainly I'd want to have the real time scope so the mobile operator could easily and immediately see uf the band has any active stations, and where.

If I want multiple SCU's and multiple slices, I will happily do that on the 6600M. So, I was just asking about a very bare bones FRS mibile.

Is something like this anywhere on the FRS radar scope?

Thanks, Tim!

Br,
Larry
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I want something that's rover friendly, that can accommodate transverters and stuff. Without having to sling around my 6700.
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Larry - you wrote...
"Is something like this anywhere on the FRS radar scope?"

I am unable to comment or speculate on upcoming or future software, products or services until they are officially announced. 
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Tim - G7GFW.... That brings back memories of the Hallicrafters SR-2000 Hurricane.
What a massive piece of equipment!

Myself, I would rather have separate rig and amp.... I can carry one in each hand (with appropriate case or carrying handle) and balance the load on my back.

Back in the mid-late 70's, when I was young and played guitar out at small venues or coffee houses, I would be slinging a 75-100 pound guitar amp on each arm.  People would approach up and say "Let me help you with one of those."  My response was "No thank you.  I am balanced this way.  If I only lug one of them I will wrench my back!  But I would appreciate you getting the door, or my gig bag..."
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Would be an interest for me to have a 6800 that has perhaps a six (6) or more SCU architecture to dedicate a complete receive path to separate antennas in an multi-antenna array.

As an alternative a "Leader" version of the 6700 that could tightly couple or slave several other 6700/6600 units into a cluster operating as one large unit - gets you to the same place in a modular form.

Much less interested in a Flex- 6800M unless the M-model face was revised to reflect the deep number of SCUs and the prospectively massive number of potential Slices (24 +) and Slice Receivers.  This would be a departure from the Maestro-style faceplate.  Could envision each SCU have some selection/control from left of the screen, the screen left edge carrying some always showing soft menu items and band activity indicators (mini-slices) and a tailored & reduced set of control right of the screen.  Perhaps the VFO-A controls are where focus is, and the VFO-B/C/D/E/F control user selectable.  Combining/Diversity/Array Control would be important as well - might even be a Joy-stick needed. 

Would also propose a separate Flex-6800S for Satellite, with a partnership with one or more of the specialist outboard equipment firms to tightly integrate multiple SCUs for this use. 

73

Steve K9ZW


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don't forget an optional "Captain Kirk" style operating chair with appropriate buttons, knobs and joy-stick at ones fingertips.

Regards
Larry  K1UO
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Like this?

73

Steve
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It's missing the wall-sized panoramic display which allows the operator to see clearly from the "Captains chair." The displays on the right side are much too small!

But this would be an interesting multi-op setup....
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I want a radio that works an entire 48 hour contest for me and wins every time, even beating out Remote Ham Radio in Maine. 
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The picture is the Project Cybersyn one of the more colorful professors at my Graduate School had been the consultant for.  Partially led to the 1973 Chile Military Coup.  Odd counterintuitive project by an odd duck. 

73

Steve K9ZW