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CWX issue with V 1.9.7?

IZ8XQC
IZ8XQC Member
I upgraded to 1.9.7 and I noticed this issue,but not sure if it's a problem related to my Flex or common to others.
With the last version when using CWDX and setting the delay to 0 or little more, the keyer was working as "full breakin" so that you could receive while sending. With the new 1.9.7 it doesn't, it means that while typing on the keyboard tha Flex starts trasmitting without any break between letters.
On the other hands if you set like this and use a paddle or a straight key, the full breakin works properly.
Any suggestion about this matter?
Vy 73, Anto IZ8XQC

Answers

  • K7FU
    K7FU Member
    edited January 2017
    I also saw this last night. My CQ message in CWX transmits in Non Break-In Mode. Using V1.9.7.
    I did a reset of the radio and reset my profiles, typed in a new message and it still does not transmit in qsk using cwx.
    Using the paddle to the radio everything works fb.

    K7FU
  • Eric-KE5DTO
    Eric-KE5DTO Administrator, FlexRadio Employee admin
    edited February 2017
    Do you have Full Duplex on?
  • IZ8XQC
    IZ8XQC Member
    edited November 2016
    Same issue also with FDX turned ON.
  • Eric-KE5DTO
    Eric-KE5DTO Administrator, FlexRadio Employee admin
    edited February 2017
    I got clarification; here's the story:

    We changed how CWX works in v1.9.7.  CWX now asserts PTT throughout the entire message.  Depending on the interest level, we may be able to add a QSK option to CWX.
  • IZ8XQC
    IZ8XQC Member
    edited November 2016
    I believe the QSK option would be fine even in CWX operating mode as it's helpful to listen while transmitting. Adding it to the CWX leaves the operator free to choose the way he preferres; increasing the delay time, will work as it's working in v. 1.9.7
  • K7FU
    K7FU Member
    edited January 2017
    When I send CQ manually it is in qsk, and when I send CQ with CWX I would want it to operate in the same manner as my cw profile. It should work the same as the operators preferences in a normal operation. Full Breakin or Not.
  • Rick Hadley - W0FG
    Rick Hadley - W0FG Member ✭✭
    edited January 2018
    Agreed. I switch back and forth between CWX and the paddle and would much prefer to be able to break the CWX message with a touch of the key. Full QSK lets me stop in mid-call if the DX station comes back to someone else.
  • IW7DMH, Enzo
    IW7DMH, Enzo Member ✭✭
    edited January 2017
    Please restore the previous cwx qsk logic. Anyway this feature could make sense in remote operations when the small network delay keeps out of sync the code.
  • Eric-KE5DTO
    Eric-KE5DTO Administrator, FlexRadio Employee admin
    edited February 2017
    Thanks for the feedback.  Please keep it coming.  I've entered this in our system as issue #4008 for tracking purposes.
  • John-K3MA
    John-K3MA Member
    edited December 2016
    One more for restoring the QSK functionality that was available before.
  • Tim - W4TME
    Tim - W4TME Administrator, FlexRadio Employee admin
    edited March 2017
    This feature is tentatively planned for SmartSDR v1.10
  • Walt - KZ1F
    Walt - KZ1F Member ✭✭
    edited March 2017
    Why was cwx changed?
  • Tim - W4TME
    Tim - W4TME Administrator, FlexRadio Employee admin
    edited December 2016
    It was a consequence of some other changes needed to optimize the WinKeyer emulation and based on feedback we received from out alpha team.  Regardless, we plan to add this capability in the next general release of SmartSDR.
  • Walt - KZ1F
    Walt - KZ1F Member ✭✭
    edited November 2016
    Thanks Tim.
  • Tim - W4TME
    Tim - W4TME Administrator, FlexRadio Employee admin
    edited December 2016
    The pleasure was all mine.
  • Walt - KZ1F
    Walt - KZ1F Member ✭✭
    edited November 2016
    Was that sarcasm?
  • Tim - W4TME
    Tim - W4TME Administrator, FlexRadio Employee admin
    edited January 2018
    No, it was a genuine response.
  • K7FU
    K7FU Member
    edited October 2016
    Interest level on which side? As a cw operator qsk is a must, both using a key or sending via cwx. It seems to me from my experience with FRS that cw has been lowered down the list of concerns when it comes to fixes..... Just my opinion of course but your reply is what I have come to expect.
  • Simon Lewis
    Simon Lewis Member ✭✭
    edited July 2017
    If i switch to mox then send using cwx after the last character sent a return to rx is forced over riding mox

    normal??
  • EA4GLI
    EA4GLI Member ✭✭✭
    edited November 2016
    Not sure if it is normal, but why would you want to use MOX when CWX engages PTT when you hit send or any of the CWX Setup keys? Just curious trying to see the use case scenario.
  • Simon Lewis
    Simon Lewis Member ✭✭
    edited October 2016
    because right now I have no trust in TX Delays/PTT delay in CW :(

    So I used MOX to put the radio into send manually - then use CWX to send my uwave beacon message

    And then thats how I found it

    If TX delay worked or I can see the delay I'll be happy

    I am super nervous using CW now for transverters as I can't afford to **** a transverter because delays are not working - it means a major delay while I get parts from EU and repair it

    :(
      
  • EA4GLI
    EA4GLI Member ✭✭✭
    edited November 2016
    I see.
    For me the delay works it just adds the extra delay in between words. So a large delay will be noticeable. 
    If you use CWX, what I can see is that all the delays, regardless of putting it at RCA TX1, TX2, TX3 or TX Delay will add that amount of time in between words in CWX.
    I have not reason to believe it is not adding the delay before sending RF.

    In my 6700 it seems to be doing that OK.
  • Sergey R5AU
    Sergey R5AU Member ✭✭
    edited July 2017
    Hi Folks!  

    QSK CWX in ver 1.10.16 works fine, however i got surprise from other way around - CWX QSK completely ignore  manual / CAT (PTT port) signal , ex with dedicated PTT port in  N1MM.

    Do we have a way around here or it should be addressed to SW improvements ?

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