Why is it that when someone asks a question that FRS might not like, the posting gets closed to comment?
For example a German Ham asked about the Fee payable for the new Software release and it was simply closed.
There are many of us that feel a little hard done by and would like to say so.
Asking Flex not to collect VAT is essentially looking for them to be banned from the EU or to face further penalties such as fines (and they'd likely have to pay the taxes anyway and eat the cost). They really don't want to incur the wrath of the EU governments so instead they choose to comply and collect the tax.
Mamm, I understand the VAT issue is an EU thing, but why should someone who bought a radio in good faith less than a year ago have to pay to improve the radios receiver performance?
Why should someone have to pay for functionality that was promised at time of purchase by the Flex rep.... and still have functionality not available that was promised at time of purchase? ie Dual Client functionality, of Maestro and SmartSDR?
It has made many many people very unhappy.
I highly appreciate that the V1.1xx Software seems to be supported in the future too..
The last release of the V1.1xx was in february 2017, so I believed that the end of support comes automatically with the realease of V2.xx. - I hope the new release V1.11.x comes before the christmas 2017! ?
The second thing is the VAT issue. I am B2B and reseller, Service provider for repairs of Ham Radio Equipment, so it is a mixed hobby and business enviroment. I am not a tax evader, but I don ́t want to pay things I don ́t have to pay for. Between the EU it ́s possible to get a bill without the VAT if you tell Your Business Partner your own VAT number, like DEXXXXX. I am not sure about 3rd states like the USA, I thought it was equal. Let me give a example. If You send me this software by DVD and post office, it will be catched from the customs and i have to pick it up at the customs office. They will create a tax bill and I have to pay for the 19% VAT. After this the custom tax bill goes into my accounting, because I am entitled to deduct VAT it is refundable by the tax authorities. Zero game for both sides! If I make the software deal by the download, you collect the tax, OK so, but is the tax refundable and separately expelled at the bill ?
I forgot to say, that ́s unfortunately not possible to get the Upgrade 2.xx through the dealers in germany "Appello" told me that ́s a non listed product, upgrades are only possible directly from flexradio. I would prefer to buy in germany.
Best regards! de DL2KBQ
Since this forum is about Flex radio related discussion, there really isn't a place intellectual battle. I believe that the moderator has seen enough of this to know when it's time to pull the plug on a thread.
Personally, I would rather have that happen than wade through a bunch of arguments and personal assaults on the forum. And since Flex does provide this to us free of charge, they do have the authority to make the rules.
There is always a cut-off date. Simply the facts a manufacturer has to set and deal with.
New models come out, and buying in the run-up to Dayton is always a bit fraught, but then again you have your Flex-6300 back then rather than waiting until the newer models start delivery.
Not familiar with the video you have mentioned.
Rather certain though it did NOT purport to have simultaneous clients as a product feature, and FRS has been crystal clear all along once they started officially addressing the multi-client features that this would be a later feature in the version 2 series.
With SDR on a FlexRadio Development Program there is ALWAYS something better coming. Always! One's real choice is the product at the time you purchase suited for your needs or are you better to wait. That is a personal decision.
Regardless you have a hell of a fine radio, one that if updated with v2.0 has a demonstrable improvement (or you can wait some months for the v 1.11 update to be issued).
Catch you on the air!
With all due respect, you will not have to pay for v1.11 when it comes out to get the performance enhancements you mentioned.
Further, "multi client" has never at any point in time been promised by FlexRadio to be included in version 1 of SmartSDR. This has always been stated as a feature that will come in the future after version 2.0 without a specific date attached. We have now delivered all of the publicly promised features on the roadmap for v1.x through the initial release of v2.0 and have added a very large number of features that were never promised.
As we have stated on the community many times in the last few weeks, v1.11 will come after we have sufficient test time on v2.0.17. V1.11 will be a back port of v2.0 with bug fixes and performance enhancements included. You won't be able to tell the difference in the performance enhancements unless you have the lab equipment to test.
Version 2 has been discussed over an over for at least three years here on the community so there is nothing new to say on the subject.
The only open public promises I am aware of at this time to be delivered are v1.11 maintenance release and multi client operation. We will not provide a date for either until they are ready to ship.
Finally, we hate the cost and hassle of dealing with VAT worse than you hate paying for it. ;>)
Firstly, I want to say I am very happy with my 6300 and what it can do. However I think the goal here
was simply to say: 1st forum posts get closed way to soon. 2nd that V2.0.17 was not what we were
expecting, in that many are waiting for the multi client feature. 3rd that after the 6300 gets removed from production, now we must hear that it was inferior prior to the V2.0 fix and those that want to wait
for a worthwhile release before parting with $200.....has to wait additional time to have the inferior receiver fix for their 6300!
Patience has never been one of my strong points. AND its simply frustration!
Thank you for your reply. I understand that the Multi Client accounts are coming later.
Its just frustrating having to wait. I will continue to watch your website for development news on this.
And if its only in a lab that one will notice the RX difference then its not much of a benefit, so another reason to wait until it becomes available on the maintenance release.
Have a great FLEX day.