best video monitor for smartsdr

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There are lots of recommendations for video cards but I find nothing about the monitors they are paired with.  There is a huge selection of sizes, refresh rates, resolutions, and prices.  I have a pair of Acer S211HLs which I bought mainly on price and I suspect I could do a lot better but how much better?  How expensive? What's the best resolution?
I don't want to spend major bucks but, on the other hand, I want the best complement to a vary expensive radio.
Thanks for your thoughts.
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Just keep in mind the screen is in HD, So going as large as you can will be easy on the eyes.
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Well, if you don't mind spending some $$$ I would go with two of these...

http://www.engadget.com/2015/01/06/dell-ultrasharp-34/

The curved displays are the best on your eyes if you wear glasses.

Jon...kf2e
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Drats

,!
Now I have monitor envy!

These make my 3 x27" Samsung's look pathetic
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Lots of good info here, guys - thanks.
I note  that the more expensive monitors have 120hz or 144hz refresh rates.  Does that offer any real advantage to us running smart sdr
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I set behind a pair of 30" dell monitors at 2550x1600 each. SDR is simply stunning. The monitors are the Dell U3011T. The 3014's are good too. You need a pretty good video card to drive them. I use a nvidia gtx 670, but if you are putting this card into an existing box, check first what power cables you have to power the card. The gtx required 2 of the 6 pin power cables. Some of the cards require 2 of the 8-pin cables, which many boxes simply don't have.

The monitors I pick up use on ebay for about $800 or so. We buy a lot of them in the architecture business.

Brent  W8XG

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Not a recommendation but  a data point...  

The 240 hz monitors seem to be for gaming to make the motion smoother.  If you search for "Eizo Gaming Monitor"  the Eizo site has a white paper on the 240hz monitors.  
Their model :

EIZO FORIS FG2421-BK 23.5-Inch Screen LCD Monitor 

looks interesting as the refresh rate is very rate and no smearing of the SDR display would occur.  On my current slow monitor (old Dell 25" / 60 hz?) I do not detect smear but a side by side would be interesting.  At about US$650 they are spendy!  Not clear they are worth the extra cash outlay.  It is an LCD but I'd rather go LED for BackLight.  

One important criteria is the monitor not contribute to the RFI in the shack.

Some of the high rate monitors do so for 3D.    Hmmm....  Smart-SDR in 3D.
Would be interesting to see if 3D effects can enhance the user S-SDR experience.

 _..--
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I have two 24" monitors, which when I get around to sorting out the RFI on my main PC will be dual monitor. My monitors are 60Hz and IMHO you would be better spending the extra $ on your station on something tangible than high refresh monitors as there is more chance of my hair growing back (imagine Kojak) than you seeing any benefit.

Managing with 1 monitor at the moment. There are freeware virtual desktop utilities that can help spread things out.
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I bought one of these a while back... hooked it up with a good HDMI cable and it is pretty slick for no more than what it cost...

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/westinghouse-40-class-39-1-2-diag--led-1080p-hdtv-black/5420054.p?id=121...
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I totally agree with the article BUT... we hams know there is something they don't address   RFI.... a cheap cable "could" cause RFI headaches... Its just like everything else... it"s trial and error in ham radio....What works for one might not work for another...  I think I gave $20.00  for my hdmi cables so they arent the HIGH dollar ones by far...
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I bought the cheapest ones I could find and they work fine. I could have spent much more and had problems. Use it to connect to the laptop until I can sort out my RFI and go dual monitor on my main PC.

I only put the cheapest tyres on my car as a) they are 1/3 the cost of the major brands, b) those major brands are nowhere near three times better than the cheapest ones by any measure and c) I don't drive like an idiot anymore. The opposite is true - if the expensive tyres were worth it, I'd buy them.

Cheers

Guy
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My cables are organic oxygen and gluten free GMO based
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I still drive like an Idiot!!!!

In fact, blew up the engine on a brand new BMW 7 series driving very fast in Germany last year... Fortunately it was a lease so BMW replaced the engine...

BTW... ur 100% correct on HDMI Cables.. unless you find they cause RFI....
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I think the sweet spot is 3 monitors. I currently run 2 24s and it is not enough. The advantage of 3 over any 2 is not having the bezel in front of you.

I am on a temp location so i am using a laptop to run it all and the pc struggles a bit. Once i move back to my base radio shack i will probably do 3x27 inch monitors with a desktop computer. And if you can get anything better than 1920x 1080 resolution smartsdr will look fantastic.
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Hi Salvador,
I have the 3 X 27 setup you mentioned.  It works well, all monitors at eye level and about 28 inches away.  

Regards, Al / NN4ZZ  
al (at) nn4zz (dot) com



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Very nice shack Al.
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Very nice Al. That is in my opinion the ideal setup as far as monitors is concerned. You can leave in the center whatever you are working on, logging, SDR, Skimmer, etc... and move to the sides all the data input.
Or you can leave SmartSDR on the side and listen while doing some work on the main screen.
 
Would you mind measuring from the left monitor all the way to the right one, see how big one of those curved ones needs to be to get the same real estate?

Thanks for sharing.
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Similar Configuration
3 x 27"    160 CM from End to End - chord across arc of the front of the monitors

Left Monitor  -  DDUTIL (SteppIR, Amp Autodrive, Rotor, Digital Wattmeters), SPE-2KFA Control

Center Monitor  - HRD Logbook, Rotor, DM780, WSJT-X, or Writelog for Contesting

Right Monitor - SSDR



Seriously considering upgrading to even larger monitors as even 4 let alone 8 panadapters is very cramped on a 27" monitor
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You can Extend the monitor. I use Display Fusion Pro. Works great!

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Salvador,
I measured 65 inches or 165 CM across the front of the monitors.   Howard measured slightly less at 160 CM.  It depends on how you angle them.

Regards, Al / NN4ZZ  
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Thanks! That is great info, to know if it will fit and to compare to the size monitor in those 16:9 curved new monitors.
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It would be even better without the bezels on the monitors.
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I prefer IMAX for a surrealistic SDR experience.
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Yes and can't beat the sounds at 40kw!
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For my money, a pair of Dell 24 inch 1080p monitors costing $135 each are stunning.  I'd put the extra money into antennas or an amplifier.
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IMHO dragging panadapters and/or tool panels to another monitor is the better long term solution. https://community.flexradio.com/flexr...

Regards, Al / NN4ZZ
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I currently use 2 Samsung 23 inch LED 1080p HDMI TV's.  I am preparing to get a third, but need a new monitor card.  The one I have won't drive three monitors at the same time.

One caution:  Whichever TV or monitor you get, be sure that the power supply doesn't generate RF hash.  Many of them are very noisy!

I first got another name brand TV from HHGregg and it filled the panadapter spectrum with all manner of spikes and pretty designs.  I promptly returned it and got a Samsung and it is pretty quiet.  I still put a mix31 ferrite on the power supply leads just to make sure.

When you are FLEXing, once you move to multiple monitors you will never go back to a simple laptop or single monitor, unless you are running remote!  My second monitor has been one of the most useful additions to my shack since the Flex arrived.
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Ken,

For $50 you can get a USB 3.0 video card like this to add the 3rd monitor.

http://www.amazon.com/Plugable-Graphics-2048x1152-1920x1080-DisplayLink/dp/B00A2E1MQA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=...

I will use that video card for the monitor for thing with less intensive video usage such as website, logging, cluster, etc...
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there are HDMI and VGA versions as well as USB2.0 version. I recommend either DVI or HDMI to avoid RFI into the monitor. VGA cables are "magnets" for RF.
The USB 2.0 will probably only go to 1920x1080, resolution, which would be your average 1080 HD monitor.

This one:

http://www.amazon.com/Plugable-Graphics-2048x1152-1920x1080-DisplayLink/dp/B00A2E1MQA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=...

will do 2560x1440  and send audio for $55.
I haven't used one myself, but it definitely is a cheaper alternative to buying a better video card. Maybe if someone has used one they can provide some feedback on its performance.
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How would a big touch screen monitor be? Would touch and S-SDR play nice?
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I already use a touch screen with SSDR and iPad Remote

A mouse is more accurate but the touch screen is OK
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Thanks Howard!
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I like a 4K monitor. It's like having four monitors on one screen.

The DELL 28" screen works nice for me. There are some low priced options.

Since I do digital modes there is a need to have a lot of windows open.

Would attach a screen shot but it's too big.



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I'm still using a 4K 39" Seiki monitor, via hdmi.  39" for a monitor is insane, almost too big but I like it. Almost wish I had another one next to it (I'm weird like that).

If you go the 4k route, keep in mind it is 4 times the pixels of a regular HD monitor, so don't go with a cheap video card - it could use a little extra processor horsepower on the video card. But having said that, I also have another one of those monitors as my primary TV in my living room, attached to an Intel NUC computer which was only $500 and I can watch netflix full screen on it with no problems (well, very few problems).

-Robbie
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Robbie, can u share a picture of SmartSDR running on the 4k monitor? The more I read about it the more convinced I am that 4K might be the way to go.

Look, you can fit 4x1080p monitors in a 4k (resolution wise)