Behringer CMD Micro - MIDI Controller

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Hi there is the Behringer CMD Micro - MIDI Controller in the SmartSDR for iOS Tools manual the same as the only one I can find which is Behringer CMD Micro DJ Controller. If so are they any good?
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Hi Roy,

yes, that's the same controller and it will work with my App.

In order for it to work, you need the Apple USB 3.0 camera connection kit.

Whether or not it is good, maybe other HAM fellows might want to tell.

73,
Marcus, DL8MRE
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Thank you for putting me straight
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Roy,

I did a small Behringer CMD Micro Midi application for Windows PC using Flexlib.  I currently don't use any Apple devices so can't comment on that implementation, but I can give a couple of general remarks about use of the CMD Micro for Flex control. 

First, I find the use of the large tuning knobs on the CMD Micro to be a problem, as if you try to spin the knobs too fast it will overload the system with interrupts and the tuning will be jerky or stop.  I much prefer the Flex Control for frequency tuning as it works directly with the radio and is very smooth.  Perhaps my  implentation needs more work to make the tuning better.

Specific implementations using the CMD Micro  will satisfy certain users but others may wish a different assignment of knobs/buttons/sliders to the Flex controls.  A CW op would prefer a different setup to a SSB op.  It would be impossible to satisfy everyone with the limited number of controls. 

I find that there are not enough knobs/buttons/sliders on the CMD Micro to work well with more than one panafall and two slices.  Those with more capable radios may wish for more controls, so a more sophisticated MIDI controller would be appropriate.  I just have a 6300 so it's no problem.

Beyond that, I find the CMD Micro to work well for my purposes, and use it whenever I'm on the air.  I hope these comments help, but it is just my perspective.

Paul
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Marcus - DL8MRE

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Knobs, Sliders etc. can be re-assigned using my App.

For details (also regarding the Adapter) please have a look to the Manual which is also available online:

http://go-to.me/smartsdr-tools-manual

The Behringer CMD micro is still available in the US via Amazon.

73,
Marcus, DL8MRE
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Yes, I'm sure it works well, but I don't have an i-anything so it won't work for me.  I could fairly easily add assignable knobs, sliders, and buttons to my app, but somewhat lost interest in continuing with the app.  I'm sure I'll get back to it as I use it lots. 

One question - how do you control the tuning function to prevent the user from turning the tuning knob too fast.  In Windows, it overloads the system with interrupts and everything pauses momentarily.  Any hints?

Paul - AA6Z
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Paul, I think these are the things that work a bit smoother and seamlessly on i-anything devices. As the CMD Micro uses MIDI and as MIDI is part of the OS (iOS) this might be the reason why I don't have the issues you were describing.

Thank you.

73,
Marcus, DL8MRE
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Marcus, do have a recommendation for an inexpensive iPad Lightning-to-USB adapter? The one made by Apple is pretty expensive....
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Hi Ken,

the only one I can recommend is indeed the one from Apple. I have tested a few others (inexpensive and expensive) and all of them had issues.

The main problem here is, that you need an adapter that either provides USB AND the option to power the USB device.

Even though the Behringer CMD Micro has batteries and the manual states that the reason for the Batteries is to power the Behringer CMD Micro it turns out that this is not true. The Behringer CMD Micro still needs power over USB.

73,
Marcus
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Marcus,

As the Behringer CMD Micro-Midi controller is no longer available, I purchased an Apple I-Pad to Lightning adapter and the current version Behringer Studio 2A from Amazon.  Unfortunately, although the Studio 2A lights up when directly attached to the PC, it does not when attached to the Lightning adapter, so I'm assuming it won't work.  Can you point us to another alternative controller?

73,

Paul W0AD
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How about trying a powered USB hub between the iPad and the midi device? The iPad does not provide much power, and USB devices will negotiate that. If you have one on hand, it won't cost anything to try.

73 Ted VE3TRQ
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The adapter I have has a short cord with lightning connector that attaches to the iPad, and then there are two ports on the other end - one for the USB cable, the other for the charger cord.

When using the lightning adapter, it is necessary to also plug in the charger cord to the other port in the adapter in order to provide enough current to power the MIDI device.
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Thanks Ted, Ken, 

I've got the same lightning adapter that Ken has.  When I installed it yesterday, it updated its configuration for about 5 minutes.  Plugged it in to the charger, the iPad and then the Behringer 2A,  The controller briefly lit, but then went dark.

Today,   I followed Ted's advice and purchased a powered USB 2.0  hub (or should I have bought a USB 3.0 hub?)  so I'll test it this evening.   It would be helpful if Marcus checked out current MIDI models and made recommendations, there are no more CMD-Micro controllers available any more. 

73,  Paul W0AD
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ThanksPaul great help
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Roy Finch

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Can someone confirm the apple camera kit is the Apple Lightning to USB 3 Camera Adapter In the Apple Store.
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Hi just tried to order the Behringer CMD Micro DJ Controller and got this back, 

I am writing in reference to the above order as the following item has been discontinued, therefore we are unable to fulfil the balance of you order and are unable to offer an alternative on this occasion.

is there an alternative that can be used?

Thanks

Roy
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I have a new unit, never used. I don't have the original packaging but the unit is new.
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Roy Finch

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Are you US or U.K. Based. I am in the U.K?
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MH_Flexer

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I have a new unit, never used. I don't have the original packaging but the unit is new.
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MH_Flexer

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I am USA based, shipping costs are quite high between us
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Roy Finch

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Yes, thank you for the offer but I think I have just found one over here.