It's been about 2 months since they stopped shipping, so I was just wondering, I ordered mine in March, and I know there are many others who ordered before me. It would be helpful to have another update and a little more communication about this delay. Thanks.
Posted 2 years ago
As of 8/14 they were awaiting arrival of the replacement 6M filters.
Howard
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Must have been on a rowboat from China. That was 3 months ago. It's getting a little ridiculous.
Gerald - K5SDR, Employee
> and perhaps more importantly, because I don't find it's earth-shattering when I can't make a contact.
best comment ever ...
best comment ever ...
I'd like to see the FCC reduce max allowed power to under 1KW.
If the max allowed was 2KW then there would be ops saying they must run 2KW to make contacts. The same would happen if allowed to use 5KW.
If you need to run 1500 watts all the time to make contacts then you must be using a block of cement as an antenna
If the max allowed was 2KW then there would be ops saying they must run 2KW to make contacts. The same would happen if allowed to use 5KW.
If you need to run 1500 watts all the time to make contacts then you must be using a block of cement as an antenna
With that philosophy or analogy, why shouldn’t the Federal government require all automobile manufacturers require speed limiting devices on all cars and trucks sold in the country to not exceed the maximum average highway speed limit??!!?? (70mph....yes I understand their are states and areas that have higher and lower highway limits, but for purposes of debate on this comment, by your theory, NONE of us have any need for any automobile to go faster than 80 or 100mph! ).
"NONE of us have any need for any automobile to go faster than 80 or 100mph!"
I agree with your statement 100%
I agree with your statement 100%
Yes. But we sell them because there are uses and situations for use of high powered cars. Legal racing, experimentation, etc. Racing officially requires organized licensure and training g to do it safely. “Homebrew experimentation to build the most powerful/efficient engine and car is a passion for many.
Sounds familiar to Ham radio?
I may have needs to operate full 1.5kW. I am mandated to use the least power as possible.
Frankly I feel there should be NO limit on maximum powered used, SO LONG as it’s the minimum powered required to allow communication. Whether it’s because I or the other station or both have “cement block antennas” or do to sunspot cycles or whatever.
The key is both self “policeing” AND proper oversight (LOL) from the FCC for those that abuse this power. No different than me taking my 950HP customized hot rod racing down the streets. If caught, fines, jail, loss of license. If we did that, Max wattage of 5kW or 1.21 Gigawatts is fine so long as it is used responsibly and appropriately.
Sounds familiar to Ham radio?
I may have needs to operate full 1.5kW. I am mandated to use the least power as possible.
Frankly I feel there should be NO limit on maximum powered used, SO LONG as it’s the minimum powered required to allow communication. Whether it’s because I or the other station or both have “cement block antennas” or do to sunspot cycles or whatever.
The key is both self “policeing” AND proper oversight (LOL) from the FCC for those that abuse this power. No different than me taking my 950HP customized hot rod racing down the streets. If caught, fines, jail, loss of license. If we did that, Max wattage of 5kW or 1.21 Gigawatts is fine so long as it is used responsibly and appropriately.
Do you honestly believe that there is a QTH anywhere in this country that requires a full 1500 watts for every single QSO? Many of these nighttime ops on 160 and 80 are blasting out the energy like they're trying to contact Voyager 1 and 2.
What's the point in a 150 foot tower with a 200 pound antenna if it takes 1500 watts to make a QSO? It stands to reason that the better the antenna system the lower the power requirement to make a QSO. If that's not the case then the tower and huge antenna are a waste of money
What's the point in a 150 foot tower with a 200 pound antenna if it takes 1500 watts to make a QSO? It stands to reason that the better the antenna system the lower the power requirement to make a QSO. If that's not the case then the tower and huge antenna are a waste of money
"self policing"?
Seriously? Have you listened to 75 meters lately?
Seriously? Have you listened to 75 meters lately?
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Here’s the ultimate Ham HF station:
US Antenna Products LPDA, covering 2 thru 30 MHz continuous (but no worries, 1.8 thru 2.0 also works just fine), measuring in at 70 ft in length, and 70 ft max width, weighing in at 2,800 lbs (so, just slightly less than Tyrus!), mounted atop a 190 ft tower, running the PG XL amp, with its 1500 beautiful heart-hammering watts, baby.
Now, that’s a real Ham station!
US Antenna Products LPDA, covering 2 thru 30 MHz continuous (but no worries, 1.8 thru 2.0 also works just fine), measuring in at 70 ft in length, and 70 ft max width, weighing in at 2,800 lbs (so, just slightly less than Tyrus!), mounted atop a 190 ft tower, running the PG XL amp, with its 1500 beautiful heart-hammering watts, baby.
Now, that’s a real Ham station!
KY6LA - Howard, Elmer
Actually such a station should have a triple stack of antennas to be effective.
Makes my 35'x 70' @85' MonstIR look tiny
Makes my 35'x 70' @85' MonstIR look tiny
KY6LA - Howard, Elmer
@PAT... I do not believe that anyone is saying they need 1500W for EVERY QSO. However, there are many occasions like busting a DX Pileup or trying to win a DX Contest or working a really weak one which has a poor antenna and lousy receiver, that every watt you can put into the ionosphere helps.
For example on 40M with my 12dBi gain antenna and 1500 W or about 24,000W Effective Radiated Power, there still many times when I just can't get through the East Coast Wall to work a EU or Middle Eastern Station in a contest.
BTW... I always love how people think its OK for them to tell everyone else how they should live their lives... and I also love driving faster than 100MPH..
You should try driving in Germany sometimes where there are no speed limits... or working DX from Italy or Russia where typically they run 8-20KW --- I think your opinions will change once you have had taste of the forbidden fruit.
For example on 40M with my 12dBi gain antenna and 1500 W or about 24,000W Effective Radiated Power, there still many times when I just can't get through the East Coast Wall to work a EU or Middle Eastern Station in a contest.
BTW... I always love how people think its OK for them to tell everyone else how they should live their lives... and I also love driving faster than 100MPH..
You should try driving in Germany sometimes where there are no speed limits... or working DX from Italy or Russia where typically they run 8-20KW --- I think your opinions will change once you have had taste of the forbidden fruit.
Pat - point made and congratulations on your wonderful achievements.
I'm sure you must realize that, like it or not, people will continue to decide when they use their amplifiers (and buy vehicles they enjoy), just as they always have.
Anyone for getting back to the thread subject?
I'm sure you must realize that, like it or not, people will continue to decide when they use their amplifiers (and buy vehicles they enjoy), just as they always have.
Anyone for getting back to the thread subject?
Yes this is off topic
You don't need 1500 watts to bust through a pileup.
Do you recall K1N Navassa Island? It was #1 most wanted at the time and had the biggest pileups I've ever seen. I got them on 6 bands running 300 watts to my Hustler vertical while "big guns" were filling the air with enough juice to light up Denver. If you check their log on Clublog you'll see me in there.
Or how about TI9/3Z9DX the Cocos Island Dxpedition that almost no one could work due to huge mountain barriers on the island. I got them on 3 bands.
More recently I got VP6D on 7 bands including 160 with less power. Their pileups were impressive as well and probably just as filled with high power ops and large antenna arrays .
I have many more examples including Clipperton Island where my little configuration got past pileups. So don't tell me 1500 watts is needed for pileups. That just doesn't hold water.
I'm not telling people how to operate but I am pointing out that running 1500 all the time when it is not necessary is illegal according to FCC 97.313
I'm also pointing out how illogical it is to need 1500 watts if you have a gigantic antenna halfway to the Moon. If the antenna system is so good then you should only need a fraction of 1500 otherwise it sounds like your antenna is not very good after all.
Do you recall K1N Navassa Island? It was #1 most wanted at the time and had the biggest pileups I've ever seen. I got them on 6 bands running 300 watts to my Hustler vertical while "big guns" were filling the air with enough juice to light up Denver. If you check their log on Clublog you'll see me in there.
Or how about TI9/3Z9DX the Cocos Island Dxpedition that almost no one could work due to huge mountain barriers on the island. I got them on 3 bands.
More recently I got VP6D on 7 bands including 160 with less power. Their pileups were impressive as well and probably just as filled with high power ops and large antenna arrays .
I have many more examples including Clipperton Island where my little configuration got past pileups. So don't tell me 1500 watts is needed for pileups. That just doesn't hold water.
I'm not telling people how to operate but I am pointing out that running 1500 all the time when it is not necessary is illegal according to FCC 97.313
I'm also pointing out how illogical it is to need 1500 watts if you have a gigantic antenna halfway to the Moon. If the antenna system is so good then you should only need a fraction of 1500 otherwise it sounds like your antenna is not very good after all.
Pat, I am surprised you did not start a new thread, if you wanted to continue. This was about PGXL deliveries.
Your right. My apologies
Bill -VA3WTB
Pat - WH6HI
DrJ
Respectfully submitted, and anxiously waiting.
K1UO - Larry
mikeatthebeach .
Maybe I should go with SPE instead
My invoice paid in full since June 2018
WW1SS - Steve
DrJ
So I merely ask, what is the LOL about. The forum is about helping and offering fellow Flex users. I feel this is a legit problem and question and so do others. Is there a single day that the “when will it ship” is not asked ?
Burch - K4QXX
mikeatthebeach .
And now 6600M
Waiting 18 months for a PGXL and no Tuner
Ever seen...No video’s even of a working
Prototype Tuner Genius from FRS
Feel I will be a SK (DEAD) before they deliver any
Product at this point !
73 Mike
Bill -VA3WTB
And you guys that are growing impatiant? as you should be, you will be bragging soon of having the best amp in ham radio.
WQ2H - Jim Poulette
I suspect it's not unlike the concept of 2 women having a baby in 4 1/2 months.
Sounds great but......well.......
73
Jim, WQ2H
Larry - WA7LZO
Patience will turn out to be the better part of valor. Trust me, the product will come!
73,
Larry
mikeatthebeach .
To wait 5 years is ridiculous
73 Mike
Larry - WA7LZO
JM2C, IMHO, and YMMV
73,
Larry
Pat N6PAT
Also, keep in mind that the FCC requires an operator to use the minimum power necessary to carry out the QSO.
§97.313 Transmitter power standards.
(a) An amateur station must use the minimum transmitter power necessary
to carry out the desired communications.
Have a Flexcellent day!
Tim VE6SH
or your QTH is in the middle of the auroral doughnut :-)
73
Tim VE6SH
Larry - WA7LZO
Pat N6PAT
Let's hear it for the solar minimum!
KY6LA - Howard, Elmer
Tim VE6SH
Tim VE6SH
Pat N6PAT
Don't buy into the hype that you need gigantic antennas and towers coupled with 1,500 watt amps to work 160. That's a lot of bunk. I just using a Hustler 6BTV vertical that I added a 19 foot wire at the top for an inverted L
Why is it that the guys with the biggest and tallest antennas always need to run the most power? Logic dictates that if those antennas are so good then only a few watts would be necessary.
Larry - WA7LZO
Pat N6PAT
KF4HR
KY6LA - Howard, Elmer
Pat N6PAT
I'll wager the vast majority of ops running 1500 do so all the time regardless of who they are communicating with. I hear them almost every night on 80 and 160. It's the same ops talking to the same buddies about whatever while running 1500. They proudly state this every so often.
KY6LA - Howard, Elmer
In many cases the paths are not symetrical so you need a lot of power to make up for the other guys poor antenna and crappy radio.
Burt Fisher
KY6LA - Howard, Elmer