Ability to select favorite GEN Band via Menu

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Why was the GEN button removed from the SSDR Band Selection Menu? It was handy to quickly go to the BCB to check Lowband RX antenna operation... plus now that persistence is available it would be desirable to return to a favorite BCB Mode, channel and filter setting when the Gen Band is selected.This would be an inconvenience to set up inside one of the Ham Bands all the time.
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K1UO - Larry

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K1UO - Larry

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Having a GEN Band would allow setting up a favorite SW station, BCB freq for Lowband antenna testing or even VLF work without upsetting the stored freq,band,filter, mode settings of the defined Ham Bands. Could someone from Flex comment if this is 'coming back' please.
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I do agree that I missed the general just for the sake of going there with some persistence as we have it now.

I know when we have memories it will not be an issue.
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I have used GEN for LF, MF ham bands and also SWL. What about a MEM button too? Andrew de VK5CV
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Here is the issue. The "GEN" band has no standard definition like the 20m ham band in regards to international usage. So in the interim we have removed the "Gen" band.

This is fundamentally different in SmartSDR as compared to PowerSDR as far as the internal workings. One of the fundamental internal building blocks in PowerSDR is the concept of a "band". In SmartSDR all a band really consists of is an arbitrary frequency range. So while it looks the same on the outside, it is not on the inside.

In the future, we will be having internal discussions how "bands" and memories will work with the FLEX-6000 and interact with each other. I suspect that user definable "bands" may become a feature in SmartSDR in the future, but we have a lot of other things to address between now and then.
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Tim, would it be possible to inhibit TX when the GEN Band button was selected??
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Larry it isn't that simple. TX is already inhibited outside of the ham bands. It related to band persistence and what frequency ranges define a "band". This is well defined and basically overlaps nicely for hams based on the IARU defined band plans. It is not so well defined for other "bands". We chose to remove the "GEN" button until we make a decision on how to handle non-ham bands in the software. It is just a temporary change.
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Got it Tim..thanks.. Im OLD..I like to think simple :-) Too many years of deep analysis/ troubleshooting have burned me out!
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Tim,
I like the idea of "user definable" bands, complete with "band stacking registers" of a sort.

Example... one could have a band definition form where the user could set upper and lower pan limits for the initial pan, as well as initial slice frequency(s), mode, filter, AGC, preamp, etc. (or use the last frequency used or saved on that "band.")

You could allow three or four band stacking registers (or allow the user to specify how many in the definition form). then multiple hits of the "Band" button would toggle through the different preset band segments as per the definition form.

For the "GEN" band, the user could define several band segments as above, perhaps being given the option of additional band definitions for this special button.

As far as memories.... Individual memories could be utilized through a pull-down or pop-up list, or better, via a separate dockable/pinable panel that would have up/down buttons that would allow the user to scroll or toggle through a variety of memories. Banking or folders could be used to assist in sorting lists of "memories," which could essentially be handled the same way as the "Bands" -- storing slice frequency, pan upper & lower limits, mode, et. al. but in this case, the initial slice frequency(s) would be fixed according to the definition stored or edited.

It would be especially nice if such a list could be edited and/or imported/exported as a Spreadsheet, CSV or text file or some other easy to edit document format in order to make large memory lists more manageable.... and sharable!

Just a little grist for the mill. (for when it is time to discuss it)
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This is a great conversation that's separate from the main topic, so I created a new idea topic to continue the discussion. Please reference the new topic here: Defining Bands and Band Stacking

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